Spat between Chief Minister and Dr Glover

[Happier diner 418]

17 hours ago, NoTailT said:

Him and that Nick Black dude both a waste of bloody time. Sack the pair of them.

It's a good salary, but exceptional is a bit of an exaggeration 

[Banker 1,096]

1 hour ago, Happier diner said:

It's a good salary, but exceptional is a bit of an exaggeration 

A salary package of £150k plus is exceptional for a civil servant on our little island!!

[doc.fixit 2,779]

It's disgustingly high! Way too much.

[joebean 803]

2 hours ago, Happier diner said:

It's a good salary, but exceptional is a bit of an exaggeration 

Yes, I meant exceptional in the context of the IOM CS. To rise to the top of the structure, the promoted person should be able to demonstrate that they possess better than average skills, particularly in leadership, judgement and achieving results. In the case of the two people mentioned earlier, this is clearly not the case. One wonders what criteria were actually applied to these  appointments.

[Dirty Buggane 171]

Criteria for appointments within the civil service = He's been here the longest and has a long tongue?

Edited November 28, 2020 by Dirty Buggane
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[Non-Believer 12,554]

3 hours ago, Dirty Buggane said:

Criteria for appointments within the civil service = He's been here the longest and has a long tongue?

Don't forget the "he's a mate" bit.

[Kopek 2,097]

If we plebs were the jury of the CS, 'rising thru the ranks', seeking latent talent to promote to the good of the Island, we might miss out on some homegrown talent to compete with imported talent from other juristriction, which is not all it should be?

If we hold a person back, it may result in them not performing as well as they might, at whatever rank???

There may well be some 'dreck' but it is spurious to presume that all CEOs are such?

Edited November 28, 2020 by Kopek

[Non-Believer 12,554]

1 hour ago, Kopek said:

If we plebs were the jury of the CS, 'rising thru the ranks', seeking latent talent to promote to the good of the Island, we might miss out on some homegrown talent to compete with imported talent from other juristriction, which is not all it should be?

If we hold a person back, it may result in them not performing as well as they might, at whatever rank???

There may well be some 'dreck' but it is spurious to presume that all CEOs are such?

The fact that they can rise through the ranks to attain high office without setting foot off the Island is a major problem. It's incestuous, it's corrupt and it's a massive failing of the system. IMHO.

[Kopek 2,097]

Then why have so many 'imports' failed?

[Apple 690]

6 hours ago, Kopek said:

Then why have so many 'imports' failed?

A good question. The last 5 years has clearly shown problems with this.

Could it be that those recruiting are sub consciously displaying bias to 'protect' their own future positions by taking on candidates who will not threaten them so appoint sub standard people 

Or:

Are they just no good at picking the right people. 

[Apple 690]

15 hours ago, Banker said:

A salary package of £150k plus is exceptional for a civil servant on our little island!!

We can afford it, according to the DHSC. Two new Directors at £100 + each plus expenses = no problems.

Come one, come all.

 

[Happier diner 418]

20 hours ago, Banker said:

A salary package of £150k plus is exceptional for a civil servant on our little island!!

He's not just a civil servant, he is the most senior civil servant. I'm not bulling him up, he might be useless for all I know, but what I am saying is that it's not an exceptional salary for such a position of seniority. 

[doc.fixit 2,779]

But we are only a very small jurisdiction. Shouldn't the salary reflect this too?

[Banker 1,096]

3 hours ago, Happier diner said:

He's not just a civil servant, he is the most senior civil servant. I'm not bulling him up, he might be useless for all I know, but what I am saying is that it's not an exceptional salary for such a position of seniority. 

It’s exceptionally good for here but Jersey senior civil servant was on £250k but had to resign recently 

[Andy Onchan 4,124]

1 hour ago, doc.fixit said:

But we are only a very, very, very, very small jurisdiction. Shouldn't the salary reflect this too?

Slight adjustment.... and yes, it should be reflected in the salary..... but it won't!