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Yes DOI have done a structual report on the new flyover and here are the pictures to prove it.

Think you’ve all missed the point. The DOI have long had the ambition to create a connected up Douglas by pass or ring road. They daren’t actually call it that. This would be the final link, ironing o

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Talking about the score board, Why the fuck is it taking so long to knock down. According to Gov it was in such a poor state it was in danger of collapse  and killing large swathes of the population. Or has that thin covering on the fencing strengthened it so much they will have to get JCK in at a cost of £1.2million and specialized imported plant. Used to take them two weeks to dismantle and remove to storage up at the old Nissen huts  at the site called the homes, behind the old children's home. And all done by the Douglas Borough Corporation.

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On 11/4/2020 at 6:19 AM, John Wright said:

Think you’ve all missed the point. The DOI have long had the ambition to create a connected up Douglas by pass or ring road. They daren’t actually call it that. This would be the final link, ironing out the kink from Braddan Church, through Braddan Bends, Jubilee Oak, past Braddan School to Ballafletcher Road.

Dressing it up as improving the TT Access Road is just sleight of hand. All the alternatives will slowly disappear until a flyover/relief road from Vicarage Road, at Meadow Crescent roundabout, to the Braddan Road/Ballafletcher Road roundabout is the only option.

Its not a new ambition. It was floated when the hospital was built. It’s why the Road from Fort North, along Cooil Road, to Isle of Man Business Park and Vicarage Road, has been over engineered, with mega roundabouts. It was always the plan.

There won’t be a problem with land acquisition, there’ll be a development trade off for housing on Kirby Farm. And it’ll be sold as part of the national post Covid reconstruction/redevelopment infrastructure project.

You mean like this? That would be a huge project. 

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12 minutes ago, Amadeus said:

You mean like this? That would be a huge project. 

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A huge project indeed.

Befitting of only the DOI.....their own version of the Ribblehead Viaduct.

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39 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Ribblehead Viaduct

It would look good, but is unfortunately impractical on terrain and cost grounds - bricklayers are expensive.

It will need a 250 meter suspension bridge over the road/industrial area, and maybe 200 meter of cable-stayed bridge either side due to the slopes. What was the original DoI estimate for re-laying 1.5 mile of prom.?

 

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Seems a relatively proportionate response to the problem, after all in Ballasalla they had a traffic problem to solve which lasts for ten minutes in a morning and ten minutes in the evening ! Easily solved by building 350 houses on greenfield land and buying property and land to knock down to have a bypass ( well if they ever keep their end of the bargain) ! Just get Cregeen to champion the suspension bridge it will be great !!

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1 hour ago, Two-lane said:

t will need a 250 meter suspension bridge over the road/industrial area, and maybe 200 meter of cable-stayed bridge either side due to the slopes.

Please do not give Mr B any more ideas - he already sees the construction industry as the backbone of the nation.

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1 hour ago, Two-lane said:

It would look good, but is unfortunately impractical on terrain and cost grounds - bricklayers are expensive.

 

You think that would ever be an obstacle? Consider the Kewaigue railway bridge at the White Hoe... :lol:

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10 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Consider the Kewaigue railway bridge

A railway bridge - now that's a thought. It could be part of Nick Black's fabled Birch hill - Farmhill light railway.

A two-layer bridge with rail on the lower level and road on the top deck. A masterpiece.

More likely to be Tacoma Narrows part deux.

 

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Course crossing. Widen the bridge.

Schedule the races to allow a half hour 'crossing' period at various points between the races. That's crossing NOT joining the course.

This used to happen some years ago, didn't it?

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51 minutes ago, Kopek said:

Course crossing. Widen the bridge.

Schedule the races to allow a half hour 'crossing' period at various points between the races. That's crossing NOT joining the course.

This used to happen some years ago, didn't it?

A great idea, sadly it doesn't cost enough, it needs a mahoosive price ticket to even get a chance of a run by Government ! Common sense aint common and sadly in Governments eyes in nearly every way too cheap !!

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15 minutes ago, asitis said:

A great idea sadly it doesn't cost enough, it needs a mahoosive price ticket to even get a chance of a run

So if one translates this or the prom. saga into the cinema world you would get a Cecil B DeMille biblical epic - near infinite runtime, a cast of hundreds, thousands of extras, enormous sets, unlimited budget - and, the most important tag line - "no egos or careers were damaged in the making of this epic".

 

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