Roger Mexico 9,804 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 59 minutes ago, Declan said: I can't see him getting booted out. Strong lead last time, reasonable constituency MHK, has avoided the Quayle shitshow and has Skelly acting as his human shield. He's hoping not to stand next time. If Rodan decides not to stand again as President, the election to that will be before the General Election. Skelly's reportedly retiring as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple 883 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, ThreeRaccoonsInATrenchCoat said: The only way to stop government wasting money is to get rid of government. Government attracts the most self-serving and disreputable type of sociopaths and psychopaths. The only way is to get involved - Go to Tynwlad, Leg Co, or listen to it like I do on the radio, get to understand the forces involved, the power versus authority issues, accountability versus responsibility, the blockers and the movers, the patronage, the Douglas centric emphasis. Lots of MHK's are as frustrated as we are and still so many of us sit back and just moan about them. Ambition in politics is nothing new, the motivations and ambitions are pretty easy to unravel when you see them action regularly. They get away with it because we let them. PS - one or two of them are in it for the right reasons. Again though, some ambitions exceed abilities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,454 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Skelly's reportedly retiring as well. How do you retire from nothing? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThreeRaccoonsInATrenchCoat 86 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Apple said: The only way is to get involved - Go to Tynwlad, Leg Co, or listen to it like I do on the radio, get to understand the forces involved, the power versus authority issues, accountability versus responsibility, the blockers and the movers, the patronage, the Douglas centric emphasis. Lots of MHK's are as frustrated as we are and still so many of us sit back and just moan about them. Wrong. You cannot reform the system. You are wasting your time bothering to listening to the radio or other fake news media. The only way to meaningfully reform the Isle of Man and bring about independence is through revolution. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple 883 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Who mentioned Independence ? Will never happen, thank goodness. We don't need revolution (been tried I think) but we do need to be willing to engage. It can not all come from the Government. Come on Chris Thomas, where are you??😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Onchan 4,293 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, ThreeRaccoonsInATrenchCoat said: Wrong. You cannot reform the system. You are wasting your time bothering to listening to the radio or other fake news media. The only way to meaningfully reform the Isle of Man and bring about independence is through revolution. That's the spirit. How much are the pitchforks? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhumsaa 3,117 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Non-Believer said: To add: Off Island based. Utterly impartial. And no invites to the Hospitality tent either. Good in theory but then they have to keep going to Civil Servants in situ for information and get flimflam'd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
finlo 4,884 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: That's the spirit. How much are the pitchforks? We've still got loads left from last time! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Buggane 200 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 All retiring my ass. Getting the fuck out before the gravy train runs dry and are asked to give some money back to help out. Or the embarrassment of not standing a chance of reelection and ending up working as a fluffer down on the failed marina in peel. Sorry my mind sometimes wanders. 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Max Power 6,579 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 hours ago, slinkydevil said: Tynwald to take on auditor for £885,000 per annum https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/tynwald-to-take-on-auditor-for-885000-a-year/ "It would have an annual budget of £885,000 and after three years would try to find enough savings to pay for itself." Err.. cancelling out any savings then. Just another level of bureaucracy to gnarl up the gears of government, or a department with real power to do the job which Treasury should have been doing all along? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thesultanofsheight 9,454 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Non-Believer said: I'll do it for nothing. One trip to DOI offices and Banks Circus. "You, you, you and you - clear your desks". I reckon that's £2M+ saved. Plus the £40M on whatever they were dreaming up next. That’s what needs to be done. In fact I’d charter a bus off Bus Vannin to put them in and then get the driver to take them home! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
finlo 4,884 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: That’s what needs to be done. In fact I’d charter a bus off Bus Vannin to put them in and then get the driver to take them home! Or preferably to the boat! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slinkydevil 4,875 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: That's the spirit. How much are the pitchforks? 42 minutes ago, finlo said: We've still got loads left from last time! Send me a private message please. 2 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manximus Aururaneus 1,172 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Using the US price of the forthcoming Pfizer Covid vaccine (£30 a pop) and then the UK Fees to GP's for administering it (£12.50) then the total cost of the IOM's 25,000 vaccine share will be £1,062,500. So £885,000 would almost cover it in just one year. Alternatively we could re-tarmac the Sloc with an extra 2.5 layers giving both extended lifetime and superlative ride quality in addition to enhanced scenic views. I would hate to be a politician making these knife-edge, life-changing decisions. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kopek 2,136 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Manximus Aururaneus said: Alternatively we could re-tarmac the Sloc with an extra 2.5 layers giving both extended lifetime and superlative ride quality Jeeze! How deep would the ditches be?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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