asitis 5,522 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Much of what made our villages, villages, has gone ! Post offices, Banks, small shops. I guess it is the unrelenting march of commercialism and the effect of the internet, but sad nonetheless ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,123 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, asitis said: Much of what made our villages, villages, has gone ! Post offices, Banks, small shops. I guess it is the unrelenting march of commercialism and the effect of the internet, but sad nonetheless ! Problem is no one uses them except a few of older population and when they are no longer viable and close then every one kicks off complaining!! No one used & no one wants to pay , the only way to keep these types of services open is a subsidy from rates but no one wants to pay!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fredtosser 61 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 18 hours ago, Apple said: You are probably, and sadly, right. The Co-op was the liveliest place the other evening when I went through there. Why don't Port Erin Commissioners take PSM over and do something with it to attract business other than cafe's and such like. Manxonia the building has been in a run down state for years now and looks dilapidated, dominating the high street. Why they have let it get into that state is beyond belief. Don't the commissioners see what is going on? Apart from the Beach, Port Erin is dump. Dilapidated buildings all over the place, vandalism, not that I disagree with a merger but I wouldn't hold Port Erin as a beacon of hope or shining example of progress. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forestboy 703 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, fredtosser said: Apart from the Beach, Port Erin is dump. Dilapidated buildings all over the place, vandalism, not that I disagree with a merger but I wouldn't hold Port Erin as a beacon of hope or shining example of progress. Have you seen the upper Prom. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Mexico 9,451 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Apple said: But one person can not buy a building without the Boards say so surely, and order in refurbishments like a new roof etc, or did he take the fall for a failed project ? There was a dedicated topic on this about a year ago which will provide some context. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple 709 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: There was a dedicated topic on this about a year ago which will provide some context. Thank you. Looks like an interesting story. Please don't tell me how it ends....yet.😀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyWolf 403 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 The question the PSM ratepayers need to ask is why the majority of the sitting commissioners at the time seemed so intent to want to buy that old building and what was there real plan for it. If it is sold then good luck to new owners and it’ll be nice to see it as a working building again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ellanvannin2010 518 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Why cannot the local commisioners run a post office service from their town hall. The income from that would help alleviate the running and heating costs of the building Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple 709 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, ellanvannin2010 said: Why cannot the local commisioners run a post office service from their town hall. The income from that would help alleviate the running and heating costs of the building Are they allowed to run a commercial operation from a government building? They have just done up the town hall main counter I hear so maybe they are planning for just that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banker 1,123 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: Why cannot the local commisioners run a post office service from their town hall. The income from that would help alleviate the running and heating costs of the building Because they don’t make any money and rates would need to go up to pay for it! Apparently raised at meetings and when chairman asked were residents in favour of doing this they went quiet!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Wright 8,092 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: Why cannot the local commisioners run a post office service from their town hall. The income from that would help alleviate the running and heating costs of the building As it’s not a Crown Office it’s already run privately by the post master/mistress. Presumably they aren’t making sufficient to justify continuing. Why would the Commissioners be any different? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boris Johnson 620 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I dont get this thing we have with Post Offices and the "Think of the Pensioners" line. People in their 70-80 will have worked with computers at their place of work, PCs have been around a long time now. Its not like it was 30 years ago when the same age group had not even seen an electronic device Pensioners are more than capable of using a card rather than cash. If they cant they really should be getting help and I mean that in a nice way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ellanvannin2010 518 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Banker said: Because they don’t make any money and rates would need to go up to pay for it! Apparently raised at meetings and when chairman asked were residents in favour of doing this they went quiet!! But surely the costs of the Town Hall are already coming out of the rates so any income from operating a type of post office service from there would help with the rates. Costs must be lower than having it in a separate shop .Could the people that staff the main counter there not just also act as the sub post officers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple 709 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: People in their 70-80 will have worked with computers at their place of work, PCs have been around a long time now. Its not like it was 30 years ago when the same age group had not even seen an electronic device We know there is a government agenda to "nudge' more and more people to use online services and then to "share" some of the data to make it easier to plan, manage and to reduce costs and hopefully reduce the civil servants in jobs and replace with more technology. My caution is about the extent of the sharing of data around the corridors of central government and access to it all by some civil servants. It is already happening and without satisfactory explanation or information to the public. Anyway, whatever happened to choice about how to pay your bills? Edited November 24, 2020 by Apple Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ellanvannin2010 518 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Apple said: Anyway, whatever happened to choice about how to pay your bills? You may have a choice but it will soon be more expensive to pay by cash or cheque than online ( and is already in many cases). Only reason I get paper copies of utility bills and bank statements now is because the compliance systems of the banks here is so outdated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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