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18 hours ago, snowman said:

Hope proof of vaccination is available. Some airlines are likely to require proof from passengers 

I'm not so sure about that.

Airlines rely on high load factors to operate successfully.   Cutting off a large.segment of your potential client base by demanding proof you've had a vaccine is a risky step.

 

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2 hours ago, TerryFuchwit said:

I'm not so sure about that.

Airlines rely on high load factors to operate successfully.   Cutting off a large.segment of your potential client base by demanding proof you've had a vaccine is a risky step.

 

It will probably be the only way they'll stay in the air. 

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45 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said:

Ooh, ooh, I don't legitemately need to have it because I've had anaphylaxsis reactions in the past...happy days!

Which is the whole point of vaccination. Most people can, and by doing so, surprise surprise, they'll not only be protecting themselves, but helping protect you and others who can't.

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8 hours ago, TerryFuchwit said:

I'm not so sure about that.

Airlines rely on high load factors to operate successfully.   Cutting off a large.segment of your potential client base by demanding proof you've had a vaccine is a risky step.

 

Qantas / Australia are considering it as are others

 

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17 hours ago, Banker said:

No but speaking to a senior medic they said it will be on your medical record so you can get a copy from GP if needed 

If you're on  app.patientaccess.com[*] you can go to menu > medical record > share record <and/or> export record. You then choose which aspect of your record you wish to share/export. Yes, there is even a section exclusively for immunisations

In share, you can copy the link or email it. An access code and/or QR access code provided gives access for 24 hours.

In export, you can choose between PDF, XML, and JSON formats.

*it's the app from where you can order repeat prescriptions and book appointments. If you don't yet have it, you'll need to sign up for it at your surgery.

I highly recommend getting the app as it's not dependant on your surgery's opening hours, so it makes life that little bit easier. (particularly if you're like me and regularly wake at 2am panicking about not having put in for a repeat 'script when almost out)

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14 minutes ago, Apple said:

Zarley - is it totally secure now?

Genuine question as that has always been my reason for not doing it. 

 

There's no such thing as totally secure. But as it's a health related app containing PII, it will have been thoroughly tested under the NCSC's CHECK Scheme.

This isn't a guarantee that nobody will find a way in eventually, nor that human error can never happen, nor any guarantee of total security. But it is a certification that at time of testing, either no serious issues were found, or they were remediated shortly thereafter.


EDIT: Actually may not have been mandatory for it to have been a CHECK scheme test, as I don't think the developer is public sector. But regardless it will have been pentested.

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2 minutes ago, HeliX said:

There's no such thing as totally secure. But as it's a health related app containing PII, it will have been thoroughly tested under the NCSC's CHECK Scheme.

Thanks for the link. Useful information, but is it an assumption that we have undergone pen testing on the island.

I am also still dubious as to where my data ends up (without my knowledge or per mission) but that is a different matter. Soon it will all be in the hands of Manx Care I assume.

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Just now, Apple said:

Thanks for the link. Useful information, but is it an assumption that we have undergone pen testing on the island.

I am also still dubious as to where my data ends up (without my knowledge or per mission) but that is a different matter. Soon it will all be in the hands of Manx Care I assume.

I don't think the island has had its own special deployment of PatientAccess, so no separate testing needed.

GDPR makes it very difficult (at the penalty of gigantic fines) to misuse people's data. It's a massive headache for the organisational side of the coin, but a great boon to the population. Other than having to click through disclaimers about cookies on every single website.

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I don't know Helix, I have heard of several breaches of GDPR in the health services this year that have been admitted to. As they have been 'self confessed' I think the Information Commissioner has taken a light view?

Will look again at Patient Access.

 

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59 minutes ago, Apple said:

I don't know Helix, I have heard of several breaches of GDPR in the health services this year that have been admitted to. As they have been 'self confessed' I think the Information Commissioner has taken a light view?

 

Mistakes happen.

In the main itsno big deal.  So a light view is exactly what should be taken.

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1 hour ago, Apple said:

I don't know Helix, I have heard of several breaches of GDPR in the health services this year that have been admitted to. As they have been 'self confessed' I think the Information Commissioner has taken a light view?

Will look again at Patient Access.

 

Hearing about them is a good thing. It was before all this when there was no obligation for a provider to inform anyone that was bad!

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1 hour ago, Apple said:

I don't know Helix, I have heard of several breaches of GDPR in the health services this year that have been admitted to. As they have been 'self confessed' I think the Information Commissioner has taken a light view?

Will look again at Patient Access.

 

Any GDPR breaches should be shown on website, I doubt very much they would have confessed to anything without being found out !!

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2 hours ago, Apple said:

Zarley - is it totally secure now?

Genuine question as that has always been my reason for not doing it. 

 

They've recently added an extra security step after you enter your password, where you enter, in drop-downs, a random choice (their choice) of three different letters/numbers from a "memorable word". The same as online banking. (Lloyds, anyway.)

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