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Last orders. What's all this about? 

https://www.gov.im/news/2021/jun/10/last-call-approaches-to-register-for-covid-19-vaccination/

It mentions the moderna option for those under 40. Have we got moderna now? Also, are they going for booster jabs for the 2 jabbed vulnerable at the expense of those who have only had 1 jab so far. Not saying it's a bad thing, hadn't really thought of it. 

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59 minutes ago, trmpton said:

But, but - that’s neigh on impossible.  Mr Ashford said so.

I thought he said 'near' impossible, but I might be wrong

On better news. 5203 vaccinations in the next 7 days. Hopefully starting (albeit 2 weeks belatedly) the road towards being able to open up.

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On 6/12/2021 at 6:23 AM, Lagman said:

Another day, another parade, protest, mass gathering.

See one of the articles you cite from the Daily Mail, discussing myocarditis, which itself cites that 'It's more likely for something like that to happen by chance, because so many people are getting vaccinated right now.' 

Note that, many athletes have shown signs of the same after contracting COVID, despite being otherwise healthy. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2780548

The above suggests 2%, in otherwise very healthy individuals. 2 in every 100.

Now, if we look at the following https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93040

This cites a number of the cases that have appeared, and points out that cases "mirror the seasonal prevalence, sex, and age profile of background cases of myocarditis, thereby complicating an assessment of a potential association with SARS-CoV-2 vaccines."

Equally, with the AZ blood clots, you are more likely to suffer one from taking a contraceptive pill. We are just in fortunate enough a spot to have the option to minimise risk by giving younger people Pfizer instead.

So please, keep fear mongering.

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Where ever you look in the press or on the internet there are many, many sources of qualified (it seems) information and recommendations for vaccinations or not.

Its not mandatory (yet) although I see Goldman Sachs (is it?) are saying they want staff to provide evidence of vaccination before returning to work. This will I think escalate. 

People have choices based on both what they know and what they feel. Thats reasonable. The same for their children. The big gap though is what happens in the future as children grow older, move into a different age bracket, and  choose not to be vaccinated.

it begs the question is eradication by vaccination only time limited and will current and new social measures need to be maintained for far longer ?

 

 

 

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First moderna shots being injected today, first doses, under 40’s.

Stock in hand now 17,000+

daily average booked this week is 900, 6300 in the week.

33,000 second doses to catch up. So 5 weeks.

looks increasingly likely borders will stay as is until end July

Hopefully there’ll be a reduction in dose interval for all new first doses to 6 weeks, otherwise we are going to have a gap with no vaccinations again in August.

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14 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

See one of the articles you cite from the Daily Mail, discussing myocarditis, which itself cites that 'It's more likely for something like that to happen by chance, because so many people are getting vaccinated right now.' 

So why are the CDC having an "emergency meeting" on June 18th  "to discuss rare but higher-than-expected reports of heart inflammation following doses of the mRNA-based Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines."?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-cdc-meeting-myocarditis-heart-inflammation/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/11/cdc-covid-vaccines-mrna-heart-inflammation-reports

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/health/cdc-vaccine-heart-inflammation.html

"The CDC revealed that the cases have occurred "mostly in male adolescents and young adults age 16 years or older, with a median age of 30 after dose one, and 24 after dose two."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/got-pfizer-youre-more-likely-113248568.html

And by that time  -

19 hours ago, Happier diner said:

5203 vaccinations in the next 7 days

 

13 hours ago, Apple said:

Where ever you look in the press or on the internet there are many, many sources of qualified (it seems) information and recommendations for vaccinations or not.

Here's some more -  https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/italy-halts-astrazeneca-vaccine-under-60s-after-teenager-dies-2021-06-11/

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/eu-advises-against-astrazeneca-shot-people-with-rare-blood-condition-2021-06-11/

UK-based Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd submitted to the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) states that “the MHRA now has more than enough evidence on the Yellow Card system to declare the COVID-19 vaccines unsafe for use in humans. "

The report, signed by Evidence-based Medicine Consultancy Ltd and EbMC Squared CiC Director Dr. Tess Lawrie (MBBCh, PhD)

https://b3d2650e-e929-4448-a527-4eeb59304c7f.filesusr.com/ugd/593c4f_b2acdef3774b4e9ca06e9fae526fd5cd.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Theresa-Lawrie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9450041/Miami-doctors-death-two-weeks-getting-Pfizer-vaccine-ruled-natural-causes.html

https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1403836354098872322

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/who-celebrates-indian-health-regulator-removes-ivermectin-its-covid-19-protocol

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Just now, Lagman said:

So why are the CDC having an "emergency meeting" on June 18th  "to discuss rare but higher-than-expected reports of heart inflammation following doses of the mRNA-based Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines."?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-cdc-meeting-myocarditis-heart-inflammation/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/11/cdc-covid-vaccines-mrna-heart-inflammation-reports

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/health/cdc-vaccine-heart-inflammation.html

"The CDC revealed that the cases have occurred "mostly in male adolescents and young adults age 16 years or older, with a median age of 30 after dose one, and 24 after dose two."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/got-pfizer-youre-more-likely-113248568.html

And by that time  -

 

Here's some more -  https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/italy-halts-astrazeneca-vaccine-under-60s-after-teenager-dies-2021-06-11/

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/eu-advises-against-astrazeneca-shot-people-with-rare-blood-condition-2021-06-11/

UK-based Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd submitted to the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) states that “the MHRA now has more than enough evidence on the Yellow Card system to declare the COVID-19 vaccines unsafe for use in humans. "

The report, signed by Evidence-based Medicine Consultancy Ltd and EbMC Squared CiC Director Dr. Tess Lawrie (MBBCh, PhD)

https://b3d2650e-e929-4448-a527-4eeb59304c7f.filesusr.com/ugd/593c4f_b2acdef3774b4e9ca06e9fae526fd5cd.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Theresa-Lawrie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9450041/Miami-doctors-death-two-weeks-getting-Pfizer-vaccine-ruled-natural-causes.html

https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1403836354098872322

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/who-celebrates-indian-health-regulator-removes-ivermectin-its-covid-19-protocol

Did you see how high the incidence of myocarditis is in athletes that have had COVID? You seemed to ignore that. From memory, the figure was about 2%, per the study linked.

Take your guardian article for example, it highlights 326 cases in 141 million fully vaccinated Americans. That’s 0.000231% of those receiving the vaccine. If we focus on the age range, which is 9% of that, that leaves us with 0.00257%.

And out of the 220 they have information about, 80% have fully recovered. 

The CDC having an emergency meeting doesn’t automatically mean panic stations, it just means they’re reviewing the evidence to see what the next steps are. If there are to be any at all. 

Note finally that, per your links, of the 3 in ICU, two had comorbidities. 
 

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15 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

See one of the articles you cite from the Daily Mail, discussing myocarditis, which itself cites that 'It's more likely for something like that to happen by chance, because so many people are getting vaccinated right now.' 

Note that, many athletes have shown signs of the same after contracting COVID, despite being otherwise healthy. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2780548

The above suggests 2%, in otherwise very healthy individuals. 2 in every 100.

Now, if we look at the following https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93040

This cites a number of the cases that have appeared, and points out that cases "mirror the seasonal prevalence, sex, and age profile of background cases of myocarditis, thereby complicating an assessment of a potential association with SARS-CoV-2 vaccines."

Equally, with the AZ blood clots, you are more likely to suffer one from taking a contraceptive pill. We are just in fortunate enough a spot to have the option to minimise risk by giving younger people Pfizer instead.

So please, keep fear mongering.

and we shouldn't forget, its not compulsory.

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11 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

and we shouldn't forget, its not compulsory.

...but only if you want to keep your job, e.g. like health care workers etc.

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