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23 minutes ago, Not a paid influencer said:

A recent study published by King’s College in London: Infections in Vaccinated People in U.K. Are Outpacing Infections in the Unvaccinated. https://www.europereloaded.com/coronavirus-spreading-among-the-vaccinated-in-highly-vaccinated-countries/

The vaccine does not stop you catching Covid. What it does do is reduce the chances of it making you seriously ill which sometimes leads to death

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29 minutes ago, Not a paid influencer said:

Kevster and Banker, I think you will be interested in this:

A recent study published by King’s College in London: Infections in Vaccinated People in U.K. Are Outpacing Infections in the Unvaccinated. https://www.europereloaded.com/coronavirus-spreading-among-the-vaccinated-in-highly-vaccinated-countries/

German Media Outlet Issues Remarkable Apology for Lies and Harms Done to Children.
https://www.europereloaded.com/german-media-outlet-issues-remarkable-apology-for-lies-and-harms-done-to-children-video/

The 'Liberty Beacon Network'

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-liberty-beacon/

Doesn't have much of a reputation as a news outlet...

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I think we are overlooking the fact that COVID is going to constantly mutate and the Vaccines are just going to be less and less effective every couple of months. 

SO

What approach can we take? Spend tens of millions every few months on ensuring boosters/re-formulated vaccines are available and then allocate ungodly amounts of resources to the logistics behind transporting and administering these?

If this is the case which it may be, it doesn't seem sustainable, do we really have any other options?

Quite worrying really. 

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More about "vaccine" efficacy.

From the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 6 August 2021: 74% of COVID-19 infections occurred in fully vaccinated persons.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

People like Hugh G Rection and myself are not here to tell anyone what to think. We encourage study of relevant information and rejection / acceptance of such as you see fit, with a view to informed and free choice about receiving a vaccine.

Some here might have wrongly thought that I was trying to present information that supports an anti-vax position. On the contrary, you might find information in the linked material that you interpret as pro-vax.

As Hugh indicated, this is about exercising your human rights to informed and free choice in matters such as this. We respect your right to choose as you see fit, and we expect the same from you.

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28 minutes ago, Not a paid influencer said:

From the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 6 August 2021: 74% of COVID-19 infections occurred in fully vaccinated persons.

That says nothing about the seriousness of the infection. As I understand it, the injection gives a good degree of protection from serious illness.

A friend across, who is asthmatic, and therefore susceptible, had his 2+2 early on. He recently contracted Covid, which gave him an illness for some 24 hours. He is strongly of the opinion that he could have been seriously ill, or worse, had it not been for the injections. 

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1 hour ago, Not a paid influencer said:

More about "vaccine" efficacy.

From the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 6 August 2021: 74% of COVID-19 infections occurred in fully vaccinated persons.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

People like Hugh G Rection and myself are not here to tell anyone what to think. We encourage study of relevant information and rejection / acceptance of such as you see fit, with a view to informed and free choice about receiving a vaccine.

Some here might have wrongly thought that I was trying to present information that supports an anti-vax position. On the contrary, you might find information in the linked material that you interpret as pro-vax.

As Hugh indicated, this is about exercising your human rights to informed and free choice in matters such as this. We respect your right to choose as you see fit, and we expect the same from you.

Just in case anyone thinks the CDC was talking about the whole of the USA or the world, 74% referred to 469 positive cases in Barnstable County, Massachusetts. 

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3 hours ago, Not a paid influencer said:

More about "vaccine" efficacy.

From the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 6 August 2021: 74% of COVID-19 infections occurred in fully vaccinated persons.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

People like Hugh G Rection and myself are not here to tell anyone what to think. We encourage study of relevant information and rejection / acceptance of such as you see fit, with a view to informed and free choice about receiving a vaccine.

Some here might have wrongly thought that I was trying to present information that supports an anti-vax position. On the contrary, you might find information in the linked material that you interpret as pro-vax.

As Hugh indicated, this is about exercising your human rights to informed and free choice in matters such as this. We respect your right to choose as you see fit, and we expect the same from you.

If you've got the majority of people vaccinated, then the likelihood is, the people that are getting infected are vaccinated. It's fairly simple maths. A small proportion of a growing big group eventually gets bigger than a bigger proportion of a shrinking group.

However, they aren't getting nearly as ill or as dead as a result of it. They're also transmitting it less to those they live and work with.

The vaccine is safe and effective, even in light of new variants.

 

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7 hours ago, Hugh G Rection said:

Afternoon chaps,

 

Did the government mention if any of the deaths were jabbed or double jabbed?

They mentioned some hospital cases being unvaccinated...but what about the deaths?

Cheers

Does it matter? According to yesterday's briefing, 18 in hospital. 8 over 80, assume double jabbed. Of the other 10, 70% were from the 30% of the population not vaccinated. 30% from the 70% who are vaccinated. 

Says it all! 

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4 hours ago, Hugh G Rection said:

I think we are overlooking the fact that COVID is going to constantly mutate and the Vaccines are just going to be less and less effective every couple of months. 

SO

What approach can we take? Spend tens of millions every few months on ensuring boosters/re-formulated vaccines are available and then allocate ungodly amounts of resources to the logistics behind transporting and administering these?

If this is the case which it may be, it doesn't seem sustainable, do we really have any other options?

Quite worrying really. 

Not really. No parasite wants to kill its host. Mutations allow it to live with us, as well as us live with them. 

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5 hours ago, Not a paid influencer said:

More about "vaccine" efficacy.

From the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), 6 August 2021: 74% of COVID-19 infections occurred in fully vaccinated persons.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

People like Hugh G Rection and myself are not here to tell anyone what to think. We encourage study of relevant information and rejection / acceptance of such as you see fit, with a view to informed and free choice about receiving a vaccine.

Some here might have wrongly thought that I was trying to present information that supports an anti-vax position. On the contrary, you might find information in the linked material that you interpret as pro-vax.

As Hugh indicated, this is about exercising your human rights to informed and free choice in matters such as this. We respect your right to choose as you see fit, and we expect the same from you.

You are demonstrating a failure to understand maths

Also, as the majority of the adult population is vaccinated, it’s logical that many people admitted to hospital will be vaccinated. It’s more relevant to look at death rates.

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Legal guidance on informed consent:

1. Did you agree to being injected with fully informed consent?

2. Did you know it is a criminal offence to administer a medical procedure to another without fully informed consent?

3. Did you expect these injections to protect you from infection? (and to gain your freedoms back?)

4. Did you expect to be required to have ongoing boosters to maintain your “fully jabbed” status?

5. Were you aware and did you understand there are alternative safe and effective prophylactics and treatments available that could be utilised, but are being blocked?

6. Were you psychologically influenced to be jabbed based on insufficient and/or false information?

A senior UK lawyer, Anna de Buisseret, is working with a team of lawyers and various campaign groups (e.g. World Doctors Alliance) with a view to serving notices of liability on vaccinators and potential criminal trials for Crimes against Humanity.

Anna de Buisseret discusses this subject here:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AYvCetnuH5aG/

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1 minute ago, Not a paid influencer said:

Legal guidance on informed consent:

1. Did you agree to being injected with fully informed consent?

2. Did you know it is a criminal offence to administer a medical procedure to another without fully informed consent?

3. Did you expect these injections to protect you from infection? (and to gain your freedoms back?)

4. Did you expect to be required to have ongoing boosters to maintain your “fully jabbed” status?

5. Were you aware and did you understand there are alternative safe and effective prophylactics and treatments available that could be utilised, but are being blocked?

6. Were you psychologically influenced to be jabbed based on insufficient and/or false information?

A senior UK lawyer, Anna de Buisseret, is working with a team of lawyers and various campaign groups (e.g. World Doctors Alliance) with a view to serving notices of liability on vaccinators and potential criminal trials for Crimes against Humanity.

Anna de Buisseret discusses this subject here:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AYvCetnuH5aG/

Good luck to her!

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4 minutes ago, Not a paid influencer said:

 

A senior UK lawyer, Anna de Buisseret, is working with a team of lawyers and various campaign groups (e.g. World Doctors Alliance) with a view to serving notices of liability on vaccinators and potential criminal trials for Crimes against Humanity.

 

I'll bet you a broken nose that this won't happen (fake courts don't count). What do you reckon, say two years from now? If it has actually happened you get a free shot, break my nose in public, Castletown square. But when it doesn't happen I get to break yours.

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News from a large UK hospital - personal communication from a contact. Not Noble’s before anyone stupid suggests it is. 
 

Maternity unit - 4 patients on ventilators with covid. All had to be delivered early. At least one going for withdrawal of treatment imminently. All unvaxxed. 
 

Main ITU - 28 ventilated covid patients. 26 unvaxxed, the other 2 with serious comorbidities that render them vulnerable to the slightest thing. 
 

This is not made up political bullshit to persuade people to be jabbed for unknown conspiracy reasons. Get vaccinated. 

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