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Just now, Non-Believer said:

Well, we've got precious few airlines coming here now - may as well use it for something. Is this another Reynolds success? And what will the car parking charges be?

Parking is free at the airport right now anyway.

I suspect that DOI themselves are not doing the installation. They usually get a third party in to do it under their supervision.

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Who is talking about setting up in a cowshed?  There are plenty of nice, warm venues large enough to do this on the IOM without OTT adaptations.  

It was quite revealing when at one of the briefings last week he spent quite a while explaining how the IOM's clinicians had debated whether to extend the period between doses, and it was a consensus

Timeout. You were given a gentle hint earlier. 

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22 minutes ago, jaymann said:

Parking is free at the airport right now anyway.

I suspect that DOI themselves are not doing the installation. They usually get a third party in to do it under their supervision.

I imagine DOI will be employing one of their contractors and paying for it and then doing an internal transfer across to DHSC.

Whatever, seems to me to be an unnecessary waste of resources. Would have been cheaper to buy mobile screens from UK DHSS warehouse (for which IOM DHSC has access) and can be used multiple times. 

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This is all quite worrying.  If, as stated, the inoculation programme is planned to go on until the end of the year does it now mean that the “powers that be” do not expect the airport to become operational until then.

Or is it just that the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing?

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44 minutes ago, Cypman said:

This is all quite worrying.  If, as stated, the inoculation programme is planned to go on until the end of the year does it now mean that the “powers that be” do not expect the airport to become operational until then.

Or is it just that the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing?

Definitely the latter.

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5 hours ago, Andy Onchan said:

I imagine DOI will be employing one of their contractors and paying for it and then doing an internal transfer across to DHSC.

Whatever, seems to me to be an unnecessary waste of resources. Would have been cheaper to buy mobile screens from UK DHSS warehouse (for which IOM DHSC has access) and can be used multiple times. 

Doesn't seem to afford much privacy / confidentiality.

In the various TV pictures and photos, some vaccinators seem to be wearing gloves when injecting people and some seem not to bother. What is the proper protocol. ? Should vaccinators wear protective gloves. 

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49 minutes ago, Apple said:

I gather that the delay to vaccination of the vulnerable and elderly was due to the Capacity issues not being resolved yet.

The solution proposed seems to be that people will be vaccinated in their best interest if they can not give their knowledgable consent, although relatives may be approached. Put simply, they are going to vaccinate vulnerable people whether they can agree or not. 

The other issue to be tackled suggested is exactly how much the GPs are going to be allowed to claim  to "administer" the vaccine.

Remember -we are all in this together. 😁

Replying to this here as the other topic is swamped with lockdown stuff, but it seems extraordinary that neither of these problems has been sorted out long ago.  The problem of capacity can't be a new one in homes for the elderly - how else do they get daily medications, never mind annual flu vaccines and so on?  And there seems to have been a fair amount of work done on capacity recently, so those working in the area should be up to date.

Similarly we've known that these vaccines were coming, probably around the end of the month, for at least six months now.  Why hasn't this been sorted out by now?  And are GPs even administering the Pfizer vaccine at their own surgeries? 

This looks like everything else that the DHSC is involved in.  They do sod all until the very last minute and then sulk because everyone else won't do exactly what they want - even if it is impractical or even illegal.  And various other middle management types then try to interfere and stop things happening on various spurious grounds for no better reason than to demonstrate their own power.  Rachel Glover's latest blog had a classic example.

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24 minutes ago, Apple said:

Doesn't seem to afford much privacy / confidentiality.

In the various TV pictures and photos, some vaccinators seem to be wearing gloves when injecting people and some seem not to bother. What is the proper protocol. ? Should vaccinators wear protective gloves. 

Privacy. It is in the arm , not the arse.

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Our two get theirs tomorrow, so hoping they will be safe, even though their old duffer parents may not be. But tbh, we have had our lives, theirs are just starting .

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1.3m people now vaccinated in UK.

Health Minister stated the other day we are set to receive 0.83% of UK supply based on our population.

By that, we should have vaccinated 10,790 people by now.

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