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So it's not a bypass of fact checking that's accelerating this. Usually, vaccine development is a project like any other. Take the Prom for example. You put in an order or request for a bunch of

I'll have it.  I'm not going to be trying to jump the queue or otherwise particularly seek it out though, but if someone at the hospital approaches me with a needle I won't run away. The safety f

I'll definitely have it. So amusing to watch those brave and bold people who didn't mind/care if they got the virus (and in so doing not knowing how it would affect them) now hand wringing over the sa

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7 minutes ago, piebaps said:

You missed a bit "Subject to supplies from the UK, Guernsey is expecting to receive" :D

Yes but they started 3 weeks before us and are already rolling out Oxford vaccine and our plans are also subject to supplies which you forgot 😀

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12 hours ago, Banker said:

Yes but they started 3 weeks before us and are already rolling out Oxford vaccine and our plans are also subject to supplies which you forgot 😀

Everybody is subject to supplies. We seem to be more subject to supplies than everyone else

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31 minutes ago, Banker said:

We did 391 yesterday upto 1432 , uk done 2.5m 

It's almost as if the powers that be don't want to use the vaccine...

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1 hour ago, Happier diner said:

Despite them saying on FRiday that they would

They did say they want enough to give  the second jab within 21 days, I believe they’re planning to give the same vaccine as the 1st jab as there was talk of the UK doing some sort of hybrid 1st Pfizer and 2nd Oxford which was quickly shut down by both companies, so now the UK is rapidly vaccinating people with the 1st and are unlikely to deliver the 2nd within the 21 days recommend.

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4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

They did say they want enough to give  the second jab within 21 days, I believe they’re planning to give the same vaccine as the 1st jab as there was talk of the UK doing some sort of hybrid 1st Pfizer and 2nd Oxford which was quickly shut down by both companies, so now the UK is rapidly vaccinating people with the 1st and are unlikely to deliver the 2nd within the 21 days recommend.

That's very true. However what we are doing (it seems) is saving everyone's second jab, effectively reserving it in the freezer. This is based upon the fear that supplies will dry up and we won't be able to apply the second jab in 3 weeks time. IMO this is over cautious in the extreme and that caution is absolutely misplaced and a danger. This is because

1) The first jab gives 70%-90% protection

2) Why would the supplies dry up. Even if they did its not an issue as it won't dry up for ever and, even if it did, the first jab has given some good protection.

3) This process is slowing down the whole point of vaccination. If we continue then we are vaccinating 1000 a week to a high standard but leaving 1000 who could have started their protection. I hope to god I am wrong but now its here on Island, some poor devil could be very ill (or worse) just because of this strange approach.

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We won’t be short of having 1 vaccine in stock, but we might well have a shortage of the correct vaccine for a second dose, Pfizer seems to be falling out of favour due to its storage requirements and I wouldn’t be surprised if it got dropped entirely, given there are now two other vaccines that are both easier to store and distribute.
Being a new vaccine there is also a lot of assumptions, they think it gives 70%-90% but they aren’t sure how long that protection actually lasts for.

When questioned about delivering the vaccine Ashford and co said they planned to deliver the vaccine exactly as it was trialed, we think at the moment that the UK have a lead on us but it could be in 6 months they all need the vaccine again.

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13 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

 

1) The first jab gives 70%-90% protection

2) Why would the supplies dry up. Even if they did its not an issue as it won't dry up for ever and, even if it did, the first jab has given some good protection.

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1) The first jab gives an initial protection with no data to say that it lasts any length of time. We will soon find out.

2) Because there is enormous global demand, bidding wars, manufacturing pressures, because the UK is desperate and may decide they need it, because it is the winter and delivery disruption is entirely possible.

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43 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

They did say they want enough to give  the second jab within 21 days, I believe they’re planning to give the same vaccine as the 1st jab as there was talk of the UK doing some sort of hybrid 1st Pfizer and 2nd Oxford which was quickly shut down by both companies, so now the UK is rapidly vaccinating people with the 1st and are unlikely to deliver the 2nd within the 21 days recommend.

I have had two family members in the UK get both Pfizer jabs within the 21 days as recommended, so I am not sure the UK are sticking strictly to their amended plan.

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