Heffalump 15 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Surprised this hasn’t came up? http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=59019&headline=Living Hope pastors take a small pay cut§ionIs=news&searchyear=2020 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom 180 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I wouldn't say anything if I were you. The cult is watching and will damn you to eternal hellfire. #Living Hell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF 5,981 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 i had one of their reps come round a few weeks back handing out plastic business cards, a polite refusal dealt with the intrusion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Dog's Dangly Bits 1,710 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, Heffalump said: Surprised this hasn’t came up? http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=59019&headline=Living Hope pastors take a small pay cut§ionIs=news&searchyear=2020 I think largely because no one really cares? 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heffalump 15 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: I think largely because no one really cares? Ha ha, True......except, they’re a charity, all staff are not theologically trained, bar the main leader who has a bog standard degree with no leadership of a church in Ireland prior to taking this role. I suppose that doesn’t matter as long as the sheep are convinced by ‘love bombing’ (yes it’s a thing!) that this is an essential part of life in living together and not having anything to do with the great unwashed. Amazing how the excessive salaries imho compared to other denominations then be defended and accepted by members. But they probably know if they were to say anything then the whole institution would leave them bereft of any friendship with immediate rebuke and disassociation, and by that stage they’ve cut off other friendships outside of the church. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Dog's Dangly Bits 1,710 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Heffalump said: Ha ha, True......except, they’re a charity, all staff are not theologically trained, bar the main leader who has a bog standard degree with no leadership of a church in Ireland prior to taking this role. I suppose that doesn’t matter as long as the sheep are convinced by ‘love bombing’ (yes it’s a thing!) that this is an essential part of life in living together and not having anything to do with the great unwashed. Amazing how the excessive salaries imho compared to other denominations then be defended and accepted by members. But they probably know if they were to say anything then the whole institution would leave them bereft of any friendship with immediate rebuke and disassociation, and by that stage they’ve cut off other friendships outside of the church. It sounds like you actually believe that too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heffalump 15 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: It sounds like you actually believe that too. No, but I do believe in Santa if that helps 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Apple 693 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, Heffalump said: No, but I do believe in Santa if that helps Every little helps, as someone once said. However, I don't know them or what they stand for (not really interested to be honest), but at least they have published their salaries and expenses in a way that some charities and volunteer groups would probably cringe at. As for any Government Department doing it......well, heaven forbid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Augustus 349 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Mr Heffalump only seems to come on here to bleat about Living Hope. Rest my case, m'lud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Mexico 9,435 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Apple said: However, I don't know them or what they stand for (not really interested to be honest), but at least they have published their salaries and expenses in a way that some charities and volunteer groups would probably cringe at. Actually as a charity they have to do that as part of their annual accounts (I linked to Hospice's on another thread earlier), at least for Directors and leadership group (as a total). They don't have to publish them (eg on a website, but they do have to be filed with the AG's Office (I think) and anyone can go there and examine them. Which is presumably what IOM Newspapers did to get their story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Voice of Reason 107 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 These Living Hope people, not my cup of tea. But they seem harmless enough, unless you know better, (copyright Esther Rantzen and the That’s Life team) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worlds-greatest-manxman 20 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: These Living Hope people, not my cup of tea. But they seem harmless enough, unless you know better, (copyright Esther Rantzen and the That’s Life team) I know a couple of people at a low point that got taken in by this lot, it's not cool, pretty shit really thankfully they woke up to it and learnt a pretty humiliating and expensive lesson, hopefully the reduced salaries are a sign this cult is on the decline. Sadly some 'Christian's in the establishment' have family in the church and so can't see it for what it is, a load of old mangled dogs dangly bits. Edited November 30, 2020 by worlds-greatest-manxman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scotty 495 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: These Living Hope people, not my cup of tea. But they seem harmless enough, unless you know better, (copyright Esther Rantzen and the That’s Life team) Not harmless at all. Corrupt and dangerous in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoTail 1,966 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Most religion is not harmless, some are worse than others though. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chinahand 3,284 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 They damn people and associate people with different opinions to their bigotry as being demonic. Not the place to be gay or gender dysphoric or have a scientific understanding of the descent of man and other animals. Anyone done the back of the envelope calculation and worked out the numbers needed to get that sum from a congregation threatened with biblical condemnation if they don't hand over their tithe? It's a lot of money taken away. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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