Annoymouse 1,268 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said: Thankfully the section of society who label people because of such things are gradually disappearing. The Class divide is very much alive and well, I would say we have an increasing generation that aren’t religious and aren’t interested in politics but it will still be 20-30 years before we see them come through. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeliX 2,353 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Only in this case it's an occasional cloud of irrelevant smelly smoke. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Annoymouse 1,268 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said: Which is why it needs someone to get in and break the mould. Ideally more than one. Quite how that will happen in 2021 I'm not sure. We need to encourage more of our young into understanding how important voting is. Recent events (Covid, to a lesser extent here Brexit) might have an impact. I'd certainly say there are a lot more young people paying attention now than when I was that age. Brexit caused a massive shake up, ironically the people who it affected the most were those who were overall less likely to vote, now we now the consequences and it has caused a bit of stir. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris C 528 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said: Which is why it needs someone to get in and break the mould. Ideally more than one. Quite how that will happen in 2021 I'm not sure. We need to encourage more of our young into understanding how important voting is. Recent events (Covid, to a lesser extent here Brexit) might have an impact. I'd certainly say there are a lot more young people paying attention now than when I was that age. I hope you're right, I really do. We need as many revolutionaries as possible. We have some level of independence and what do we use it for? Making rich people richer. What have we achieved politically in the last 40 years? Votes for 16 year olds and little else. We need a change from the lazy unimaginative politics which we've all grown used to. 2 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, Chris C said: I hope you're right, I really do. We need as many revolutionaries as possible. We have some level of independence and what do we use it for? Making rich people richer. What have we achieved politically in the last 40 years? Votes for 16 year olds and little else. We need a change from the lazy unimaginative politics which we've all grown used to. Up the Tooting Front and all that eh ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wrighty 5,882 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Up the Tooting Front and all that eh ? I get that. But like you I have kids, and think of how it is for them starting out adult life. Middle aged greying men may not represent them as well as they do you or I. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, wrighty said: I get that. But like you I have kids, and think of how it is for them starting out adult life. Middle aged greying men may not represent them as well as they do you or I. But those with clear heads each day may be preferable to someone floating in on a cloud of pot. Can’t speak for you , but my two have fuck all in common with this idiot. They are of a similar age, but a million miles away from his thinking. Thank fuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeliX 2,353 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, dilligaf said: my two have fuck all in common with this idiot. You know you're being a bit of a dickhead right? Also "clear heads each day"? How many of our current MHKs drink regularly? I know you grew up in the "reefer madness" propaganda, but you know things have moved on a little since then right? 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, HeliX said: You know you're being a bit of a dickhead right? Also "clear heads each day"? How many of our current MHKs drink regularly? I know you grew up in the "reefer madness" propaganda, but you know things have moved on a little since then right? Please explain why I am being a dickhead . My kids don’t drink, smoke or take drugs. Is that what the problem is ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Waiting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeliX 2,353 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, dilligaf said: Please explain why I am being a dickhead . My kids don’t drink, smoke or take drugs. Is that what the problem is ? No, the problem is that you're railing against someone who wants to do right by the island and its inhabitants just because you object to his past, his appearance and his occasional bit of weed. And worse than that, you're now calling him an idiot for those things, saying his only chance of votes is "sympathy votes" even though many young will agree with many of his policies, and generally coming full-bore at someone who's doing their damnedest to be honest and open and improve the place they live. It's just a bit.. dicky innit? 3 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeliX 2,353 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, dilligaf said: Waiting See what I mean? I dunno if something's mugged you off today but you're being unnecessarily eggy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dilligaf 9,448 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, HeliX said: No, the problem is that you're railing against someone who wants to do right by the island and its inhabitants just because you object to his past, his appearance and his occasional bit of weed. And worse than that, you're now calling him an idiot for those things, saying his only chance of votes is "sympathy votes" even though many young will agree with many of his policies, and generally coming full-bore at someone who's doing their damnedest to be honest and open and improve the place they live. It's just a bit.. dicky innit? No . Not at all . Do you have principles ? Do today’s kids have principals? No thought not. That is the basis of your future government? Well done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeliX 2,353 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, dilligaf said: No . Not at all . Do you have principles ? Do today’s kids have principals? No thought not. That is the basis of your future government? Well done. I have many principles. One of them is to let someone explain their positions before critiquing their positions, rather than laying into someone based on their past and appearance. Yes, today's kids have principles. As you've undoubtedly noticed (and complained about) re: climate change, anti-racism, etc. We agree on almost nothing. That's not a surprise nor new. But normally you're at least a bit reasonable about things. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Raekwon 352 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Relentless dickheading 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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