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4 minutes ago, Numbnuts said:

Dont get much for 1 million yessir , higher , higher , higher 

seriously , who knows what the powers that be mindset is. 

Well, the powers mindset will have factored in their 500,000 rampant tourists all paying £££ for trike/e-coach tours around the course. With the highlight being a stop at the TT (tourist tat) megastore and a chance to have your photo with the world famous scoreboard. Rob's  TT tours departing daily

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9 minutes ago, english zloty said:

Well, the powers mindset will have factored in their 500,000 rampant tourists all paying £££ for trike/e-coach tours around the course. With the highlight being a stop at the TT (tourist tat) megastore and a chance to have your photo with the world famous scoreboard. Rob's  TT tours departing daily

Let’s see a TT scoreboard or funding for a television series to be filmed on the island …….. mmmmmmmm toughy. Either one will be a waste of taxpayers resources, the scoreboard is really an extension Rob Callisters inflated ego. The old structure could have have had some money spent on it and one of IOMG pet contractors to tart it up, prolonging it’s life, but unfortunately MNH sticks it oar in. Waste and squandering of resources come to mind, this new scoreboard is no different and will be neglected and allowed to rot away. 

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I note that the Scouts Association has been part of the consultation. Does this mean that the TT will have a digital scoreboard with with scouts running around on it putting times up in a totally pointless exercise? I do hope not. This is when heritage turns into stupid. 

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I heard that they are purchasing a huge specially made screen, approx £700,000. And in order to protect the heritage aspect the scouts will use tippex to write on the screen. 🙄

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Having just listened to Rob Callister’s radio interview I had to do a roll eyes at the answer to the question about the new scoreboard being built to last. He expects it to last 30 years. On what basis does he believe that we will still be racing motorcycles around the TT Course in 30 years time and that there will be an audience who wants to watch it? 
This all smacks of a lack of foresight and awareness of how the world is changing. In the absence of any new tourism strategy they’ll keep flogging this horse until it expires and then for a while after. I’m not particularly swayed by the Green agenda but even at my age and a lifetime of driving cars snd riding motorcycles, I can see that change is coming. It’s the old mistake of continually repackaging a product that new consumers are not buying in the belief that it is the packet, rather than the product that is the problem. 

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15 minutes ago, joebean said:

Having just listened to Rob Callister’s radio interview I had to do a roll eyes at the answer to the question about the new scoreboard being built to last. He expects it to last 30 years. On what basis does he believe that we will still be racing motorcycles around the TT Course in 30 years time and that there will be an audience who wants to watch it? 
This all smacks of a lack of foresight and awareness of how the world is changing. In the absence of any new tourism strategy they’ll keep flogging this horse until it expires and then for a while after. I’m not particularly swayed by the Green agenda but even at my age and a lifetime of driving cars snd riding motorcycles, I can see that change is coming. It’s the old mistake of continually repackaging a product that new consumers are not buying in the belief that it is the packet, rather than the product that is the problem. 

Not only that, new technology changes every year. If the scoreboard is LED and is all singing all dancing what’s its lifespan - 3 years, 5 years, 7 or 10 years? Everybody knows you buy a tv and it’s relatively old fashioned a year or two after you have bought it. 
 

If this scoreboard is wooden or a similar replica how many years is it predicted to last? Is it going to be maintained? Judging by most of IOMG assets they are poorly maintained, poorly treated, hammered and auctioned off, with taxpayers forking out for a brand new replacement. It’s only Rob Callister spending taxpayers money as though it’s not his own. 

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30 minutes ago, joebean said:

Having just listened to Rob Callister’s radio interview I had to do a roll eyes at the answer to the question about the new scoreboard being built to last. He expects it to last 30 years. On what basis does he believe that we will still be racing motorcycles around the TT Course in 30 years time and that there will be an audience who wants to watch it? 
This all smacks of a lack of foresight and awareness of how the world is changing. In the absence of any new tourism strategy they’ll keep flogging this horse until it expires and then for a while after. I’m not particularly swayed by the Green agenda but even at my age and a lifetime of driving cars snd riding motorcycles, I can see that change is coming. It’s the old mistake of continually repackaging a product that new consumers are not buying in the belief that it is the packet, rather than the product that is the problem. 

30 years.  The only way they could achieve that is to buy 5 and keep them in storage for when one breaks because you won’t be ordering spares in 20 years.

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55 minutes ago, joebean said:

I note that the Scouts Association has been part of the consultation. Does this mean that the TT will have a digital scoreboard with with scouts running around on it putting times up in a totally pointless exercise? I do hope not. This is when heritage turns into stupid. 

As with everything it’s a PR exercise, lip service. Keep everyone happy otherwise twitter meltdowns and IOMNP uproars. No sense of priorities, proportionality or common sense. Do the Scouts get a medal or a badge from the ACU to sew on their uniforms? Times have changed the IOM hasn’t, Scouts shouldn’t be used as Ashies and Callisters free labour. 

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Anyone know the costs of the new TT live service?  Paul Philips said it cost a lot.....200 strong production team from greenlight plus a the app development and Vimeo hosting.  Sounds like a 10 million+ operation.

https://www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/waking-a-sleeping-giant-as-the-tt-goes-digital

Let's say they can do it for 5 million.  333,333 signups required at £14.99 to break even.  Not including what's already been spent

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2 hours ago, TheTeapot said:

So they havent priced it up yet, is that what they're saying?

So what are we saying? Higher or lower than a million quid?

Well over a million. And I can bet you another million, that the scoreboard will be somehow not weather proof and after one year left in situ, it'll be knackered. See those stupid walk/cycle monitors they had on the prom. 

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36 minutes ago, cissolt said:

Anyone know the costs of the new TT live service?  Paul Philips said it cost a lot.....200 strong production team from greenlight plus a the app development and Vimeo hosting.  Sounds like a 10 million+ operation.

https://www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/waking-a-sleeping-giant-as-the-tt-goes-digital

Let's say they can do it for 5 million.  333,333 signups required at £14.99 to break even.  Not including what's already been spent

Some cringey comments in that link:

BSN: “This is an amazingly ambitious programme, more than any other except the Olympic Games, and it is inevitable that mistakes will be made .The buggeration factor must be quite high because this is the first time you have done it. Who is the poor sucker who has got to pull all this together apart from you Paul?”

Phillips: “I am very accountable for the project. It is my project. 

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They have done a good job getting the press to jump up and down about it being live as if its the first ever live sports event.

NW200 was streamed live on BBC website 15 years ago and was available on red button for just as long. Its nothing new at at all, its low hanging fruit in this day and age. 

 

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1 hour ago, Youaintseenme said:

30 years.  The only way they could achieve that is to buy 5 and keep them in storage for when one breaks because you won’t be ordering spares in 20 years.

It's simple...like the NSC flumes. It will take 29 years for the scoreboard to be erected, work for 1 year while a few people get injured, then take it out of service. 

30 years. Job done.

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Hopefully was used again also a fair wind, does not add to a positive result.   Another expensive toy😏 however it is drawing attention away from the low number of home stay accommodation, unhappy Marshalls and the need to get the course in good order.   The only bright light on the horizon is that f…..g fair is not coming. 

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Meanwhile the EGM of 'Isle of Man TTMA ltd ' has been adjourned and no date set however the new "TTMA ltd" have  already "acquired" the details of marshals from the' Isle of Man TTMA ltd' and sent an email to all the marshals today giving them until 11/3/22 to ask them to delete said details .

It may be interesting to see how this is viewed by marshals who previously had a right to be a "member" of a TTMA and now  had that right removed as there are only 2 members permitted and if they choose to marshal have to abide by the ACU's 'code of practice requiring them to adopt /endorse / applaud the opinions of the ACU/Paul Phillips .

Failure to do so will result in being sacked without being told the reason and with no right of appeal ( according to the M & A's ).

Funny old world:flowers:

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