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1 hour ago, Amadeus said:

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The only 'facts' I know of the above incident are what I've read on various forums, so I have no idea if the above statement is true. 

However, if it is true, then it is in accordance with long held and established Isle of Man authority management mantras - that responsibility never travels upwards.  

 

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6 hours ago, 0bserver said:

I'm hearing there's plenty more where this came from! 

There's one on the side of the flag man's hut at Cronk ny Mona too

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36 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Who's the uninformed person behind that little campaign I wonder? I have a good idea, and he's losing my sympathy for his situation rapidly!

Can you just confirm if this is the Mercer incident where...

Mercer was critically injured when an official course car slammed into him as he made his way back to the Grandstand against the racing direction of the TT course, after being instructed to do so by a marshal.

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8 hours ago, 0bserver said:

Can you just confirm if this is the Mercer incident where...

Mercer was critically injured when an official course car slammed into him as he made his way back to the Grandstand against the racing direction of the TT course, after being instructed to do so by a marshal.

It is "Claimed" that the rider was instructed by a marshal .

The official car , with 2 policemen on board were apparently going to the scene of an incident where only one rider had been involved ( and therefore had no reason to attend, "rubbernecking"?)). Did race control approve the course car being on the course and were all marshals advised?

All  riders were instructed at the 'riders briefing' that in the event of a red flag they would be escorted back to the grandstand following a Travelling Marshal, at reduced speed under "waved yellow flags" at all marshalling points.

It was common knowledge ( via Race Control and Manx radio , if memory serves) that the riders would be returning to the grandstand against the course flow , but everyone knew ( or should have known) being led by a TM under waved yellows.  

I have known a rider to ignore a marshals instructions ( mine) after confirming that he had retired then subsequently firing up his bike and rejoining the course with cold tyres.

I have also witnessed Mark Miller pull off the course onto the grass verge ( at Black Hut )and then , thought it acceptable to  push the bike back onto the course against the flow of the course  (while practice continued)  and park it on the course against the wall .

Riders have demonstrably been known to "go off on a frolic of their own" ..... Just saying

Nothing has been confirmed to my knowledge  so it's  " ALL IFFS AND ANDS ".

Previously after an incident a marshal was blamed ,arrested and initially charged with manslaughter  until it was established that they were in no way responsible  and the case was dropped. .......

 

In relation to the "flyers" being posted around the course I would have thought that a statement from Mr Thompson  confirming or rejecting the contents would have been an idea  .

Just saying :flowers:

 

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21 minutes ago, paswt said:

It is "Claimed" that the rider was instructed by a marshal .

The official car , with 2 policemen on board were apparently going to the scene of an incident where only one rider had been involved ( and therefore had no reason to attend, "rubbernecking"?)). Did race control approve the course car being on the course and were all marshals advised?

All  riders were instructed at the 'riders briefing' that in the event of a red flag they would be escorted back to the grandstand following a Travelling Marshal, at reduced speed under "waved yellow flags" at all marshalling points.

It was common knowledge ( via Race Control and Manx radio , if memory serves) that the riders would be returning to the grandstand against the course flow , but everyone knew ( or should have known) being led by a TM under waved yellows.  

I have known a rider to ignore a marshals instructions ( mine) after confirming that he had retired then subsequently firing up his bike and rejoining the course with cold tyres.

I have also witnessed Mark Miller pull off the course onto the grass verge ( at Black Hut )and then , thought it acceptable to  push the bike back onto the course against the flow of the course  (while practice continued)  and park it on the course against the wall .

Riders have demonstrably been known to "go off on a frolic of their own" ..... Just saying

Nothing has been confirmed to my knowledge  so it's  " ALL IFFS AND ANDS ".

Previously after an incident a marshal was blamed ,arrested and initially charged with manslaughter  until it was established that they were in no way responsible  and the case was dropped. .......

 

In relation to the "flyers" being posted around the course I would have thought that a statement from Mr Thompson  confirming or rejecting the contents would have been an idea  .

Just saying :flowers:

 

Thanks. I was going from this article 

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/sport/motorcycling/stricken-isle-man-tt-racer-steve-mercer-says-it-cant-end-986948

 

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2 hours ago, paswt said:

It is "Claimed" that the rider was instructed by a marshal .

The official car , with 2 policemen on board were apparently going to the scene of an incident where only one rider had been involved ( and therefore had no reason to attend, "rubbernecking"?)). Did race control approve the course car being on the course and were all marshals advised?

All  riders were instructed at the 'riders briefing' that in the event of a red flag they would be escorted back to the grandstand following a Travelling Marshal, at reduced speed under "waved yellow flags" at all marshalling points.

It was common knowledge ( via Race Control and Manx radio , if memory serves) that the riders would be returning to the grandstand against the course flow , but everyone knew ( or should have known) being led by a TM under waved yellows.  

I have known a rider to ignore a marshals instructions ( mine) after confirming that he had retired then subsequently firing up his bike and rejoining the course with cold tyres.

I have also witnessed Mark Miller pull off the course onto the grass verge ( at Black Hut )and then , thought it acceptable to  push the bike back onto the course against the flow of the course  (while practice continued)  and park it on the course against the wall .

Riders have demonstrably been known to "go off on a frolic of their own" ..... Just saying

Nothing has been confirmed to my knowledge  so it's  " ALL IFFS AND ANDS ".

Previously after an incident a marshal was blamed ,arrested and initially charged with manslaughter  until it was established that they were in no way responsible  and the case was dropped. .......

 

In relation to the "flyers" being posted around the course I would have thought that a statement from Mr Thompson  confirming or rejecting the contents would have been an idea  .

Just saying :flowers:

 

Lots of flaws in this, for the sake of those involved in 'the previous incident' and this, it's unfair to put up an argument. 

All I will say is that the police were not 'rubbernecking' and were instructed to attend for a very good reason. The car driver did nothing wrong. 

What would you have Gary Thompson say? Where have you heard him blame anyone for the incident? Thought so, and the author of the leaflets knows it.

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