0bserver Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Have DOI been out fixing the road at so-called 'Ago's Leap'? Or are they just going to race over the cracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 44 minutes ago, WTF said: strange it has taken so long to get to the bottom of what happened then . How do you know they haven't? 10 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: Has the injury claims from the Bray Hill crash in 2013 been settled yet? That ran into millions. Ask the insurance company. 9 minutes ago, paswt said: I would venture to suggest that the marshals on the ground should be a party to the investigation . Pretty sure they were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 9 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Have DOI been out fixing the road at so-called 'Ago's Leap'? Or are they just going to race over the cracks? If you're referring to the cracks in Amadeus' video, those are quite a long way prior to the accident and have been there for ages haven't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, 0bserver said: so-called 'Ago's Leap' so-called?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Less than 30 seconds out of the stocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Christian Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 10 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: I think you missed the point there. @paswt referred to TTMA ltd, the newly created organisation with (so he has alleged) rules that prevent individuals speaking out. If this is true, then they become part of any system that prevents open analysis of accident data. It’s not new. It’s been IOMTTMA Ltd for many years. The articles were updated recently but it’s always been a limited company. I was a director of such. Nothing of substance or operationally has changed. I don’t believe they are in any way political. They facilitate and provide marshals and training and are true enthusiasts of the TT. I know people on this forum think everything is a conspiracy. My experience is they are good people giving up their free time (unpaid) to enable the TT to happen. Edited June 6 by Steve_Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Christian Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, paswt said: I have marshalled (2008-2019) and have never been offered post incident support . My only concern is to prevent/ mitigate a further reoccurrence of incidents @ Casey's and Black Hut. Hope this helps. I apologise for that. There is a process where the DSMs and CSMs communicate with their marshals and the committee to provide support. We were looking to improve DSM and CSM training before I left the TTMA (and the Island (for work)). I apologise if you needed support and didn’t receive it. Hopefully there are better processes and procedures in place now. If you still feel you need support, it is available and please reach out to the TTMA or DM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, 0bserver said: Have DOI been out fixing the road at so-called 'Ago's Leap'? Or are they just going to race over the cracks? Didn’t see any cracks or damage when I drove along yesterday , still a smell of fuel/cleaning etc & flowers where the tragedy happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Treasury minister insists that we must gear-up and expand the TT so it "benefits local businesses and visitors." That will mean further financial investment, widening the scope of appeal... https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/allinson-we-need-to-grow-the-tt/ Which is a grand idea, but how many local traders and businesses have the where-with-all to invest and grow that idea following a "long and very tough three years" of no TT..? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/traders-have-had-long-and-very-tough-three-years-without-tt/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 13 hours ago, HeliX said: Can't see how I've twisted anything to be honest. It is unfortunate that some people are killed doing something they wanted to do. I'm sorry if you think that word doesn't carry enough "gravitas" or whatever it is you're complaining about. EDIT: Here was me thinking PT had clocked De Nada's change in the post. Maybe not. I guess anyone else who is upset at the word "unfortunate" can have the above words instead. Not sure what happened there. I was agreeing with you and De Nada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 24 minutes ago, quilp said: Treasury minister insists that we must gear-up and expand the TT so it "benefits local businesses and visitors." That will mean further financial investment, widening the scope of appeal... https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/allinson-we-need-to-grow-the-tt/ Which is a grand idea, but how many local traders and businesses have the where-with-all to invest and grow that idea following a "long and very tough three years" of no TT..? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/traders-have-had-long-and-very-tough-three-years-without-tt/ I think all that free TT corporate hospitality has got to the Treasury Minister’s head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, Max Power said: Pretty sure they were. Max, as far as I'm aware the marshals @ Black Hut/Casey's have not been invited to attend an investigation by the powers that be into any incident . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 7 minutes ago, Twitch said: I think all that free TT corporate hospitality has got to the Treasury Minister’s head. What is inside his head? A brain? Everyday he likes to spout pronouncements and loves the sound of his own voice. Still thank goodness for small mercies, at least Rob Callister isn’t at the big table ……… yet! Then there will be pronouncements by Facebook, IOMNP and Onchan Facebook groups not to mention Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steve_Christian said: It’s not new. It’s been IOMTTMA Ltd for many years. The articles were updated recently but it’s always been a limited company. I was a director of such. Nothing of substance or operationally has changed. I don’t believe they are in any way political. They facilitate and provide marshals and training and are true enthusiasts of the TT. I know people on this forum think everything is a conspiracy. My experience is they are good people giving up their free time (unpaid) to enable the TT to happen. I am/was a member of the IOM TTMA ( along with either 283 or 680 members , nobody seems sure 😉) and was notified of an EGM to wind up the company and transfer its assets to a new company ( TTMA ltd ). The EGA was adjourned as no information was given in relation to the assets/ liabilities of IOM TTMA. A new date was set for a reconvened EGM which again was adjourned. I have received no notification of when the adjourned EGM will be held. I understand the the TTMA Ltd have now taken over the assets of the old company and are in charge with 2 Members . Just saying Edited June 6 by paswt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 WTF is the point of publishing and selling TT programmes with lists of competitors and their start numbers if most of those lists are going to be declared null and void on the day and replaced by a single list read out over the radio? With competitors in the paddock reported as also having to change the numbers on their machines 45min before the start? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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