Non-Believer Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Just now, HeliX said: And claiming that people are "being killed" for our exchequer is not spin right? Nobody is going round killing TT riders. Some of them are sadly dying as a result of crashing during TT practices/races. It's phraseology. Using the term to suit the occasion. "People are killed" may not be suitable for the narrative. "People die" may sound better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: It's phraseology. Using the term to suit the occasion. "People are killed" may not be suitable for the narrative. "People die" may sound better. "Being killed" is certainly daft. Which is why I suggested an alternative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 31 minutes ago, Kopek said: They were killed by you Helix in your pursuit of an entertainment for Saturday afternoon!! Bit extreme I know but when I watch 4 wheel racing, I don't expect any one to be killed? They are not entering the TT for my benefit. If I had died two weeks ago none of them would have pulled out. They enter the TT because they love racing the TT, and I have no interests in stopping them. I do have interests in making the TT safer. Not by bringing it to a halt, though. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milestone 11 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 5 hours ago, Steady Eddie said: He sort of has a point though. Do we have any coloured never mind LGBTQ+ or otherwise gender diverse TT riders? It does seem to comprise largely of stereotypical heterosexual white men some of whom have even been exposed as wife beaters. You've not heard of Michelle Duff then, four TT podiums and a World Championship Grand Prix win. I spoke with her some years ago at TT, '07, '08, maybe, when she participated in a parade lap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 9 hours ago, HeliX said: Oh I meant here/social media really. Most people in a real conversation aren't playing games. I don’t know why anyone would think that people who don’t agree with the consensus TT narrative on social media are playing games. I’d wager that they aren’t and that is exactly what people think. I’ve been party to a lot that has gone on in the last week and spoken to a lot of people and believe me there are many Manx people seriously questioning their views on the TT after the absolute horror and carnage of the last week. To suggest some of those are playing games on social media is quite insulting really. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) Liam Beckett the BBC Sports Pundit just on BBC News this morning calling for sidecars to be banned from the TT. Edited June 12 by Newsdesk Add clarification 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 It would be great to see some of these boys retire now and live to enjoy their achievements. I'd get more out of seeing the likes of McGuinness pack it in than watching him throw his leg over the bike again. He's already passed into T.T. history and legend. Let's all just enjoy that and have those wonderful memories. Just stay off the bike. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 6 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: It would be great to see some of these boys retire now and live to enjoy their achievements. I'd get more out of seeing the likes of McGuinness pack it in than watching him throw his leg over the bike again. He's already passed into T.T. history and legend. Let's all just enjoy that and have those wonderful memories. Just stay off the bike. he was the mobile chicane making up numbers this year in his capacity as big name crowd gatherer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 56 minutes ago, WTF said: he was the mobile chicane making up numbers this year in his capacity as big name crowd gatherer. I thought that was Rutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Have we measured the worth of this weeks wide ranging publicity in international media against say, that that was generated by the fairy houses? I think that was about 600k? This must be up in the long millions, or maybe long negatives of millions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 14 hours ago, manxman1980 said: There have been female TT racers for years. Maria Costello MBE probably being the most famous but there was also Jenny Tinmouth and of course Beryl Swain. Isle of Man TT: Meet the women who dare (from 2014) Nice little video. Includes a bit about Beryl Swain, the first in 1962. She was banned the next year due misogynistic attitudes prevalent at the time. "Slowly but surely women, the weaker sex, are muscling in on man's domain". I've not seen any mention this year of Julie Canipa, local sidecar passenger. In 2018 she won the Susan Jenness Trophy for Most Meritorious Female. Does anyone know if she raced this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 6 minutes ago, Zarley said: I've not seen any mention this year of Julie Canipa, local sidecar passenger. In 2018 she won the Susan Jenness Trophy for Most Meritorious Female. Does anyone know if she raced this year? i'm sure we'd have heard about it if a local woman was in the TT sidecars this year so i'd guess she wasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youaintseenme Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 hours ago, Newsdesk said: Liam Beckett the BBC Sports Pundit just on BBC News this morning calling for sidecars to be banned from the TT. He’s right All this nonsense talk of carnage at the TT needs to be realigned to carnage in the sidecar races. It pretty simple go look back at this years event without the sidecars and see that it was a great event. Easy fix. Sack them off and make more track time available for the event that people are actually interested in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youaintseenme Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: It would be great to see some of these boys retire now and live to enjoy their achievements. I'd get more out of seeing the likes of McGuinness pack it in than watching him throw his leg over the bike again. He's already passed into T.T. history and legend. Let's all just enjoy that and have those wonderful memories. Just stay off the bike. Why? More the 100 race starts plus all the associated practice laps and never had an off. He clearly knows how to ride within his and the bikes ability 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 minute ago, Youaintseenme said: He’s right All this nonsense talk of carnage at the TT needs to be realigned to carnage in the sidecar races. It pretty simple go look back at this years event without the sidecars and see that it was a great event. Easy fix. Sack them off and make more track time available for the event that people are actually interested in. what about all the years where solo's made up the death toll and sidecars were fatality free ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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