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On 6/20/2022 at 7:07 PM, Youaintseenme said:

For me it should end the day someone who hadn’t made a conscious decision to be anywhere near it is killed or injured.

Until then when it is people who have volunteered to expose themselves to that risk in return for the buzz they know it will give them it can carry on.

It's exactly what you said.

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Here’s a clue.  When I accepted that a bike vaulting a house and injuring someone that is because that would be a completely innocent bystander who should have rightly expected to be safe.

My point was always that anyone at trackside or in a garden right next to a live racetrack has made a conscious decision to be there (or if a child had it made by the person who was at that time responsible for them)

That is completely different to what you seem to have understood.

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4 hours ago, Boris Johnson said:

The only people that say that are people that have never felt the adrenalin rush of proper competition, in any sport.

That doesn’t apply to hardly any sport.

Its like saying a marathon runner would go out full whack for the first few miles, or that a cyclist would burn out in the first hundred miles of a stage.

Its like a weightlifter going for a PB on his first lift or a f1 driver using all his fuel or tyres.

You do know that in most motorsport people very rarely drive or ride at even 90 percent don’t you?

You really do post some shite

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29 minutes ago, Youaintseenme said:

That doesn’t apply to hardly any sport.

Its like saying a marathon runner would go out full whack for the first few miles, or that a cyclist would burn out in the first hundred miles of a stage.

Its like a weightlifter going for a PB on his first lift or a f1 driver using all his fuel or tyres.

You do know that in most motorsport people very rarely drive or ride at even 90 percent don’t you?

You really do post some shite

As usual, not a lot of what you post makes sense

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30 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

As usual, not a lot of what you post makes sense

Really?

Boris said, in response to someone saying that the throttle works both ways

The only people that say that are people that have never felt the adrenalin rush of proper competition, in any sport.”

That shows he knows nothing about motorsport.

With the exception of drag racing  and hill climbs I can’t think of a motorsport where people race at full speed for the whole race.

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10 hours ago, Youaintseenme said:

Really?

Boris said, in response to someone saying that the throttle works both ways

The only people that say that are people that have never felt the adrenalin rush of proper competition, in any sport.”

That shows he knows nothing about motorsport.

With the exception of drag racing  and hill climbs I can’t think of a motorsport where people race at full speed for the whole race.

full speed and as fast you think you can go are not the same thing.  some people don't get that. sometimes you think you can go faster and physics says otherwise , that's when the fan starts to smell.

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https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/petition-calls-for-changes-for-tt-2023/?fbclid=IwAR2KZXog8G5EM8NCfZRCWOYAIsds44JL8M9XZUa-PESSVQlnY2SsTMWrNrc

 

This doesn't surprise me in the least. Were I a TT fan, I wouldn't welcome this. Between 2005 and 2009, I made a point of visiting Ellan Vannin to attend the Rally Isle of Man. In 2008, I went to the Scollaig Road/ Abbeylands stage and a NIMBY turned up and moaned in the face of of one of the marshals, "We're shut in for the TT. We're shut in for the rally. My son can't get his gym. Is the anyone I can write to, to have this stage moved away from Abbeylands?" Of course, I and other rally fans assembled there, were laughing at her. The following year, the stage was moved away from the crossroads. In addition to that, Health & Safety had decreed that the rally was cut from three to two days and popped, flying champagne corks were directed well away from spectators at the winner's paddock at the TT grandstand. I always looked forward to the last day of the rally at the grandstand. Yep, a great occasion was wrecked by Health & Safety.

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1 hour ago, AOR said:

Some reasonable asks there.

Then they go and blow it all by asking for the return of the fun fair.

wtaf

I was with him all the way until that stupid suggestion. Bring the funfair back but put it up Jurby Airfield

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I don’t understand why the petition is asking for the Hospitality Suite only to allow sponsors in, not members of the public. Surely if they pay, anyone should be allowed to go in? What’s it got to do with the schedule, the scoreboard or any of the other gripes this petitioner is whinging on about?

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1 hour ago, Roxanne said:

It’s a well meaning petition but it’s not going to work. It’s too late to go back to ‘grass roots’. The government won’t allow it. Now they are involved and have declared it a money making scheme, we can only expect more ‘corporate’ decisions from here on.

The real question is just how much of a money making scheme it is for the government though, rather than just certain individuals or outside companies.

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1 hour ago, Roxanne said:

They’ll get the fair back tho. For sure. 

You're probably right, unfortunately. At one time our young people would look forward to the TT and the day they could become a marshal or just enjoy the racing.

These days they see the TT as a reason to get hammered and go down the fair, with a badge of honour being escorted by the police from Bushy's Village, drunk and disordery - there were a few of those badges dished out this year.

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Anyone who signs that petition, not just because of the funfair thing, but most of the rest, is a bit of a knacker.

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Unfortunately this petition is a bit of a whinge, “things are not as good as they were” which I can sympathise with, being a traditionalist myself. 
I’m afraid those days have gone and it’s best to remember them for what they were.

Traditionalists knock younger fans and so called “bucket listers” but they have every right to enjoy the event without the scorn heaped on them because they buy a hospitality ticket! 
 

Most people I have spoken to enjoyed the event, lots thought the app and live feed was great. 
 

I agree that certain traditional elements need to be retained, but some things just can’t, the scoreboard for example can never have 100 scouts at the roadside again, the safety barrier made the thing almost useless also!

As far as atmosphere, everyone told me that the fan zone was ideal, the promenade lacked any semblance of fun and the crappy lighting made it worse! Perhaps the fair is needed to create a vibrant atmosphere?

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