CowMan Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Apple said: Is it all falling apart ? Prolonged exposure and uncertainty for the last 12 months due to Covid and the continued and badly timed transformation seems to have raised questions such as this about other services and the state they are in. Nobles Hospital has had about 15 people with covid in it in the last year. It must be the least covid affected hospital in Europe if not the entire world. If it still can’t cope after that then they must be the most grossly incompetent management team going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 7 hours ago, finlo said: The place is huge surely the bed count must be in the hundreds? B&B furniture has lots of beds too. As I’ve said before, it’s not about beds, but about having staff available to look after patients in them. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Grumpy Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, wrighty said: B&B furniture has lots of beds too. As I’ve said before, it’s not about beds, but about having staff available to look after patients in them. So is it correct that bed shortages mean elective operations that require overnight stay are not taking place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, wrighty said: B&B furniture has lots of beds too. As I’ve said before, it’s not about beds, but about having staff available to look after patients in them. I'm sure they must be doing some kind of procedure at B&B. Last time I was in there, the salesman seemed insistent on pulling my pants down. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 If as pointed out that Nobles has the facilities and not the staff then we have been misled. DA has reassured us that there are staff to run Nobles. Now it appears not to be the case. Their recruitment and retention strategy lies in tatters then. Why is that ? The staff in Nobles know the truth and are not allowed to speak out, They should be. Too many people looking the other way and not reporting issues that are in the patients and public best interests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 9 hours ago, 2112 said: I’m supposed to have a OP appointment at the end of this week, whether it goes ahead is another matter. I’m supposed to get some XRays done - is Radiology open? Radiology open as friend had a scan yesterday, said it was deserted everywhere but very efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, wrighty said: B&B furniture has lots of beds too. As I’ve said before, it’s not about beds, but about having staff available to look after patients in them. This is the bit I don't get. How much of the resource at Nobles is being taken up by Covid? Or are there staff shortages caused by Covid (i.e lack of general nursing staff on the island as people can't come in)? Your job for instance - are you doing hip ops or have they stopped? If so, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said: This is the bit I don't get. How much of the resource at Nobles is being taken up by Covid? Or are there staff shortages caused by Covid (i.e lack of general nursing staff on the island as people can't come in)? Your job for instance - are you doing hip ops or have they stopped? If so, why? The staff shortages are caused by initially being unable to employ enough people who want to move to the island to work, and secondly, once here, making sure the staff that DO come are treated well enough that they want to stay. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 hours ago, wrighty said: B&B furniture has lots of beds too. As I’ve said before, it’s not about beds, but about having staff available to look after patients in them. What does an orthopaedic surgeon do when s/he can't wield their sterilised tenon saws and chisels? Unpaid sabbatical I assume... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Boo Gay'n said: Unpaid sabbatical I assume... Surgeons who can not operate can catch up with OP clinics, attend numerous meetings, check and grade referrals, training juniors, cover rotas, help out on wards maybe...but unpaid sabbatical isn't on the menu I'm afraid. There would be hell to pay if that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Dr. Grumpy said: So is it correct that bed shortages mean elective operations that require overnight stay are not taking place? In orthopaedics we've mainly been doing day case surgery since December. We've made up for it in part by doing additional trauma work - the situation in the NW has been so bad that there are patients we'd ordinarily have transferred across for specialist care that we've managed here. It's a very frustrating situation for us. The blame lies squarely with covid. I've explained before why getting additional staff is almost impossible right now. The lack of activity is not down to politicians, managers or clinicians themselves. It's just how it is. I very much hope it improves soon - I don't like seeing patients in clinic and telling them I can replace their joint although I have little idea when, but I'm not about to make promises I probably can't keep. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Boo Gay'n said: What does an orthopaedic surgeon do when s/he can't wield their sterilised tenon saws and chisels? Unpaid sabbatical I assume... Day cases, trauma, clinics, CPD... There aren't enough of us to take unpaid sabbaticals - if they were on offer I suspect we would - as we have to provide a 24/7 on call service for trauma and emergencies. We are however trying to take all of our annual leave in the relevant year even though we could carry it forwards. I'm going to be off for the next 3 weeks at home improving my guitar playing, since a decent holiday seems out of the question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, wrighty said: In orthopaedics we've mainly been doing day case surgery since December. We've made up for it in part by doing additional trauma work - the situation in the NW has been so bad that there are patients we'd ordinarily have transferred across for specialist care that we've managed here. It's a very frustrating situation for us. The blame lies squarely with covid. I've explained before why getting additional staff is almost impossible right now. The lack of activity is not down to politicians, managers or clinicians themselves. It's just how it is. I very much hope it improves soon - I don't like seeing patients in clinic and telling them I can replace their joint although I have little idea when, but I'm not about to make promises I probably can't keep. So where is the tipping point to trying to run a normal hospital service so the people like you can do the job you are meant to do? It seems to me that too many services have stopped due to Covid yet the actual Covid situation doesn't justify it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 hours ago, manxst said: The staff shortages are caused by initially being unable to employ enough people who want to move to the island to work, and secondly, once here, making sure the staff that DO come are treated well enough that they want to stay. If there’s staff shortages for clinics etc why are we sending lots of qualified nurses out every day to do vaccinations when there’s plenty of retired medical people offering to do them plus the GP surgeries? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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