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32 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

The French bloody love it. For all their gourmandesness they eat this day and night especially on 'la crêpe'

In service stations they sell gallon tubs of it. I've never eaten it, but man, those ingredients. 🤢

I noticed that when I toured the Loire Valley in 2001. I was in Angers when 9/11 happened but that's another story. 

I was vegetarian at the time, so mainly ate bread and cheese, and crêpes with Nutella. The French don't believe in or cater for vegetarians. Oh the looks I got when asking for a vegetarian option! 

Don't know if things have changed in the last twenty years as I've not been back since. 

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We could do with a new coffee shop.

Jewellers is pushing it a bit. It was Ratners.

No, not until just now. You could have had the decency to wait until I finished the jar I have in. 🤮

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In order to make a profit, then Hôtel Chocolate prices are about the only ones that will.

Since the brexit bollocks and price of organic cacao and cocoa butter has shot up. I'm not sure if Thornton's use either in their chocolate but it would explain their decision somewhat if they do.

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2 hours ago, Out of the blue said:

All this talk of Thornton's took me back to the late 90's and a long since gone Thornton's cafe and shop located on the junction of Moorgate/London Wall in the City (it is now a phone shop). A work colleague of mine was having a fling with the manager, so we all got free cups of hot chocolate. That all stopped when they broke up, selfish bastard.

Agree with your point however, it was a product of it's time, and it is no surprise that the high street retail arm is folding.

They probably should have revitalised the cafe and would probably made more money from that than selling just chocolate.

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1 hour ago, jaymann said:

Maybe we'll get Sandpiper to bring us a Hotel Chocolat franchise!!

I don't see the point of anyone paying rent and wages to charge more for small items than people can buy the same for for via Amazon.

Some shops have a great future. Not just supermarkets and fresh food shops but also places which make getting a thing much easier - eg large items, stuff which needs putting together or installing etc. These places tend not to be on the high street.

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18 minutes ago, pongo said:

I don't see the point of anyone paying rent and wages to charge more for small items than people can buy the same for for via Amazon.

Some shops have a great future. Not just supermarkets and fresh food shops but also places which make getting a thing much easier - eg large items, stuff which needs putting together or installing etc. These places tend not to be on the high street.

Agreed in principle.

As I understand, there is still demand for the right type of space for Matalan and B&M, but they won't likely be on the high street. We really need a good solid out of town retail park for these types of businesses to come here like they want to.

Furniture is a big thing. We have some great furniture shops, but there's definitely room for one of the low cost flat pack type suppliers to set up shop here I'd imagine. All driven by impulse demand. People dont want to wait 12 weeks for a bed to arrive. If they can pick it up flatpack and build it at the weekend, they will.

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I'm hoping this will herald a reset, realistic rents and rates to enable local businesses to re-occupy the shopping centres. There's much more satisfaction dealing with owner operators than a bunch of teenagers on zero hours contracts with zero interest.

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2 minutes ago, Max Power said:

I'm hoping this will herald a reset, realistic rents and rates to enable local businesses to re-occupy the shopping centres. There's much more satisfaction dealing with owner operators than a bunch of teenagers on zero hours contracts with zero interest.

Rents have come down a bit.  More rent frees etc around now.

But most of Strand Street is owned by old money.  That doesn't owe anyone anything.  So they'll sit there with it.

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3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

I'm hoping this will herald a reset, realistic rents and rates to enable local businesses to re-occupy the shopping centres. There's much more satisfaction dealing with owner operators than a bunch of teenagers on zero hours contracts with zero interest.

This falls down to Gov strategy too. Locate Agency spends a lot of time, effort and money in advertising to attract HNW's to move here. As part of that, they often buy property to support their move. A lot of Strand St is based around this now if you look who owns the major units. They aren't going to let their £3m purchase turn in to something yielding 1 or 2 percent in a hurry.

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They've been in trouble for a while. 

Years ago on a management and marketing course, I had to do a case study on them and devise a marketing strategy.  This was about the same time that a certain semi-pornograhic novel for the ladies came out....

My marketing strategy of "Fifty shades of brown" was not as widely embraced as I had hoped.

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17 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

They've been in trouble for a while. 

Years ago on a management and marketing course, I had to do a case study on them and devise a marketing strategy.  This was about the same time that a certain semi-pornograhic novel for the ladies came out....

My marketing strategy of "Fifty shades of brown" was not as widely embraced as I had hoped.

They were bought out by Ferero Rocher for a reasonable price about 6 years ago.

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