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17 hours ago, snowman said:

Loganair ending Heathrow. Last flight 10 Aug. 

 

Government subsidy run out ?

With it now being impossible to fly to London, do a day's work & return on the same day.... or more importantly come from London to Isle of Man and do the same, we'll lose more companies to Jersey. 

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1 minute ago, Douglas2020 said:

With it now being impossible to fly to London, do a day's work & return on the same day.... or more importantly come from London to Isle of Man and do the same, we'll lose more companies to Jersey. 

I don't think losing people to Jersey is the issue like it once was.

What we need to accept is that a lot of people are moving here to embrace a remote working world and those same people will - at times - need to commute to offices and clients in cities, London being an important one.

The Island has successfully attracted a lot of younger movers for a change in the last 12 months (some 1200 I recall the number being) and ability to connect being more important than ever going forward. Loss of Dublin a big issue too.

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9 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

Sour grapes from a certain corner then?

A few corners and a political mess. But tenders can't have the same panel again when this happens, so no idea who will sit on the new panel.

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Just now, Joe said:

I wonder when they made the decision?  I booked a through flight with BA on Monday the first and last sectors being Loganiar IOM/LHR/IOM 🤬

I often found it was cheaper to book the Loganair Heathrow flights on BA website than Loganairs own, forgetting connecting flights.

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1 hour ago, NoTailT said:

Which is a 65% load factor on a Loganair E145 based on 28 flights in the month (think its actually less) and at their fares I imagine they're just about covering their nut before any subsidies or support come in to play.

When I used it, it was ATR 42

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2 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

So even better load factors and profitability then!!

Probably because a daily commute to London isn't in the Active Travel plan. Nor is it exactly part of the five-year climate change plan. At least not until we have electric aircraft.

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8 minutes ago, snowman said:

Loganair have issued a statement and cited funding withdrawn by IOMG

 

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https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/loganair-to-drop-unviable-isle-of-man-heathrow-route

BA have had a message on their page talking about restarting City flights in 2022 for a while, though I don't have any great confidence in it happening. 

Flights to Isle Of Man (IOM) | Book now with British Airways

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Paper shifting, conferences, internet working, working from home, discussions, conversations, designing, predicting, lawmaking, arguing, group thinks. Doesn't anyone in the Western world actually produce anything physically tangible any more?

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1 hour ago, NoTailT said:

I don't think losing people to Jersey is the issue like it once was.

What we need to accept is that a lot of people are moving here to embrace a remote working world and those same people will - at times - need to commute to offices and clients in cities, London being an important one.

The Island has successfully attracted a lot of younger movers for a change in the last 12 months (some 1200 I recall the number being) and ability to connect being more important than ever going forward. Loss of Dublin a big issue too.

What’s your source for evidence of this?

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9 minutes ago, Twitch said:

What’s your source for evidence of this?

Enterprise data, can't remember where it was published. But based on work permits/immigration stuff. Also goes a long way to explain the housing issue right now.

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