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2 hours ago, offshoremanxman said:

It still needs less public sector people like teachers though. 

MHKs are a lot like public servants, while they are in office, they are there to represent and serve us, their public. I take your point, but I don’t think good candidates should be solely discounted on the basis of their public/ private sector backgrounds. Otherwise, the Island might as well stop running general elections and hand the reins of power to technocrats. For every public sector employee who is supposedly getting on a ‘Tynwald gravy train’ there is surely a businessperson out there who we could level the same ‘scepticism’ at. Not all businesspeople who wish to become MHKs will be doing it out of the goodness of their hearts or out of a sense that the Island needs their experience and leadership.

[Roger Mexico]

4 hours ago, offshoremanxman said:

It’s more about public sector group-think. Those employed in the public sector generally all think the same as they’ve never had to generate a penny of income in their whole lives. 

But actually the majority of those in the old House of Keys were the business people you are so fond of. The only ones with any public sector experience were Caine (civil servant), Cregeen (postman), Edge (education admin), Moorhouse (teacher),Thomas (lecturer) and Barber (nurse).  Technically Allinson isn't because Partner GPs are self-employed and certainly have to run their own business.  Even those except Barber and maybe Edge and Moorhouse also have experience in the private sector.  The remainder are all from the private sector, including most of CoMin.

Judging by results it looks like MHKs from business are the problem not the solution.

[Apple]

15 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Judging by results it looks like MHKs from business are the problem not the solution.

Ain't that the truth. 

We need both private and public services backgrounds. I think the UK are now finding that out with several privatisation developments having gone or going to the wall and needing more public finance for bailing out.

 

[Roger Mexico]

4 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

Who with a business background was a real problem in the other house other than Harmer and Baker and both of them had a fairly chequered career in business. The same as people like Callister. Bill Shimmins was fairly effective, as was Hooper as was Cannan. Robertshaw was fairly robust and savvy too. Watterson was an accountant. All I was suggesting was a balance but time and time again we see so many failed posties in particular coming forward.

To add to Harmer and Baker, there's Boot, Quayle, Skelly, and I'd add Ashford.  Cannan was Treasury Minister, he had the power to do more rather than moaning occasionally.  Peake, Perkins and Corlett were all 'low-key' to be polite about it, though the latter at least seems to have put in constituency time.  It may be we're getting the wrong sort of 'business people', but I suspect that's inevitable, the best ones will want to stay doing what they are doing. 

[SleepyJoe]

42 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

Who with a business background was a real problem in the other house other than Harmer and Baker and both of them had a fairly chequered career in business. The same as people like Callister. Bill Shimmins was fairly effective, as was Hooper as was Cannan. Robertshaw was fairly robust and savvy too. Watterson was an accountant. All I was suggesting was a balance but time and time again we see so many failed posties in particular coming forward.

Quayle - he encouraged building on green fields in his constituency, including the horror show now raising it's butt ugly head at The Strang

[SleepyJoe]

Couldn't look at a green field without seeing a development opportunity

[The Old Git]

Those grants don’t claim themselves. 

[SleepyJoe]

18 hours ago, offshoremanxman said:

Has Quayle really got a business background? 

Self-made man, even if he might say so himself