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4 hours ago, Roxanne said:

I'm intrigued to know who his former employers were?

He worked latterly in the DHSS investigating NI and benefits irregularities I believe. He was apparently famous for once being so assertive and belligerent with one Mr A Gubay over employment practices at the Mount Murray that he was allegedly accused of trying to punch him during an on-site meeting. 

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46 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

He worked latterly in the DHSS investigating NI and benefits irregularities I believe. He was apparently famous for once being so assertive and belligerent with one Mr A Gubay over employment practices at the Mount Murray that he was allegedly accused of trying to punch him during an on-site meeting. 

He wasn’t allegedly accused. He was accused, charged and went to trial. He was acquitted at the end of the prosecution case on a submission of no case to answer. No defence evidence was presented.

There was no evidence, believed by the Court, that Mr Cowin was belligerent, assertive or attempted to punch Mr Gubay, or did anything to cause him to stumble or fall.

Mr Gubay then complained against the Defence advocate to the Advocates Disciplinary Tribunal on the basis that he hadn’t liked the questions put to him, and that they were inappropriate. He got one of his staff to make a statement portraying a false narrative to the ADT. 

During the Willers v Gubay litigation that employee, 20 years after the event, admitted in evidence to the court, that the position portrayed by him to the ADT had been untrue.

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41 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

He was apparently famous for once being so assertive and belligerent with one Mr A Gubay over employment practices at the Mount Murray that he was allegedly accused of trying to punch him during an on-site meeting. 

I love him already.

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46 minutes ago, John Wright said:

He wasn’t allegedly accused. He was accused, charged and went to trial. He was acquitted at the end of the prosecution case on a submission of no case to answer. No defence evidence was presented.

Thanks for clarifying. I knew I remembered something from the time. But used allegedly as I wasn’t sure if it was true or not as I was a long time ago. 

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1 minute ago, offshoremanxman said:

But used allegedly as I wasn’t sure if it was true or not as I was a long time ago. 

John was being a little pedantic but in this case he was right to be.

You wrote "allegedly accused of doing x" when the reality was "accused of allegedly doing x".

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2 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

Thanks for clarifying. I knew I remembered something from the time. But used allegedly as I wasn’t sure if it was true or not as I was a long time ago. 

You used allegedly in the wrong place for that. And it doesn’t work. Slipping allegedly into a defamatory post won’t stop it being defamatory. Without my explanation, taken on its wording alone, what you posted is probably defamatory of TC.

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17 minutes ago, Declan said:

John was being a little pedantic but in this case he was right to be.

The matter is that it went to court and it was ruled that there was no case to answer for as the allegations were basically made up. If recall Mr G fell over during some sort of verbal challenge and then claimed that he had either been shoved or punched. I made it clear I thought that no blame attached to Cowin at any time. But it is a great story that no doubt he still lunches off on occasion. He would actually be an ideal member of Keys as he is certainly belligerent. 

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6 hours ago, Roxanne said:

I'm intrigued to know who his former employers were?

Our dear friends at the IOM civil service.

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29 minutes ago, Uhtred said:

Our dear friends at the IOM civil service.

He was senior DSS inspector dealing with NI and lump paid construction workers. He also was acting inspector for Work Permits.

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Also not very popular with some other civil servants because he did do his job properly.  (I'll copy in the full text of this as I don't know how this stuff will now remain on isleofman.com:

Isle of Man News - POSTED Tue 21-11-2006
Civil Servant cleared
by Manx Radio
A senior civil servant has been cleared of any wrongdoing, following an independent investigation into alleged breaches of discipline.

The investigation came about after an examination of e-mails sent by senior DHSS official Trevor Cowin, over a period of almost a year, led the Chief Secretary to believe there had been a number of potential breaches of discipline and that 'management' had failed to deal with them.

However, an investigator has concluded that Mr Cowin's actions throughout the period were 'transparent', were carried out with the full knowledge of his line manager, and did not constitute misconduct.

The DHSS says there was no case to answer.

Beth Espey reports:

(Text of attached audio)
Among other things Mr Cowin was alleged to have contravened the Civil Service Code.

It was claimed he may have used the e-mail system in a way which breached government policy, and which may have constituted bullying and harassment against staff of the Civil Service Commission.

Another claim was that the copying of his emails to trade union officials could have contravened laws of confidentiality and may have contravened the Official Secrets Act.

DHSS political member, former MLC and MHK Dominic Delaney (pictured), says he is delighted the obvious flaws in the original complaint, from the Civil Service Commission, have been identified.

He says Mr Cowin, and his line manager, acted in the best interests of the department, the civil service and the taxpayers of the Isle of Man.
 

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The more I hear about Mr Cowin, the more I like him. Can't wait to speak to him in person and bar something atrocious coming to light, I'm pretty sure he's got my vote. 

I need to knuckle down and start doing some serious studying on subjects such as the North and West Plan or whatever the hell they called it. (Licence to Vandalise the Countryside would be closer to the truth.)

I don't want to look like an eejit by getting my facts back to front when talking to the likes of him and Ms Lord-Brennan. 😁  

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