Barlow Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Prior to this latest duo there had been at least three MLCs stood for House of Keys election. They all resigned from the Legislative Council first. (Victor Kneale did so in 1981 for example) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, Barlow said: Prior to this latest duo there had been at least three MLCs stood for House of Keys election. They all resigned from the Legislative Council first. (Victor Kneale did so in 1981 for example) I can remember 4. Edgar Mann, Victor Kneale, Leonard Singer and CC McFee in 1971. I did wonder about Clifford Irving. But he constituency hopped several times between 55 and 86 ( Douglas East, North and West ) with one defeat in 81 and was then MLC 87-95. Initially Singer intended to stay on, but bowed to public pressure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Barlow said: I'm not saying it is a "conspiracy" although up to a point it is. The scenario being Tynwald puts their Golden Girl in against non-establishment types ("we don't want no hippies, no-hopers or gammons in our club) then fill her place with a person of their very own liking. It stinks. Is there anything in this life that you haven't got a chip on your shoulder about? Apart from teachers, lawyers, police or members of tynwald? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, John Wright said: I can remember 4. Edgar Mann, Victor Kneale, Leonard Singer and CC McFee in 1971. I did wonder about Clifford Irving. But he constituency hopped several times between 55 and 86 ( Douglas East, North and West ) with one defeat in 81 and was then MLC 87-95 Not quite John. Cecil was voted off the Legislative Council. In a three horse race for two seats he was third with 12 votes (November 1970). He did stand for Rushen the following General Election in 1971 and was 4th with a creditable 1648 votes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Is there anything in this life that you haven't got a chip on your shoulder about? Apart from teachers, lawyers, police or members of tynwald? Drugs. You forgot the drugs and the druggies. And their dealers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Barlow is correct. She should resign if she intends to stand. It's simple democracy. I don't understand why some people on here don't get it. Well I do actually... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Strikes me that some MLCs don't feel they have a mandate to 'politic' Would having elections for them - with their scope limited to a senatorial role - improve the situation? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWolf Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Maybe the two intelligent M.L.C ladies really want to work for our island and get involved rather than be part of a sleepy MLC club that doesn’t have any merit in its present form in the modern world, you only have to look at those who have been handed the golden ticket in the past to see it’s a dead loss being mainly being a retirement job for former mhks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Time for LegCo reform & do away with the Governor as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 51 minutes ago, GreyWolf said: Maybe the two intelligent M.L.C ladies really want to work for our island and get involved rather than be part of a sleepy MLC club that doesn’t have any merit in its present form in the modern world, you only have to look at those who have been handed the golden ticket in the past to see it’s a dead loss being mainly being a retirement job for former mhks. I sincerely hope that both ladies are elected. Not because they are women but because they are intelligent, articulate, seemingly motivated, and have decent real world experience. In other words, most unlike the majority of current MHKs. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 MF - instead of moaning on here, stand for election. Others - OK then I’ll do that MF - useless candidates this lot, wish some decent folk would stand Decent candidates - we’ll stand! MF - these decent candidates are opportunists, only standing because the field is weak. They should definitely also give up their current livelihoods before doing so - that’ll teach them to be so arrogant, thinking they can get in as MHKs etc. 4 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy123 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, wrighty said: MF - instead of moaning on here, stand for election. Others - OK then I’ll do that MF - useless candidates this lot, wish some decent folk would stand Decent candidates - we’ll stand! MF - these decent candidates are opportunists, only standing because the field is weak. They should definitely also give up their current livelihoods before doing so - that’ll teach them to be so arrogant, thinking they can get in as MHKs etc. Yep - MF is only happy if it’s moaning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 10:44 AM, Barlow said: Yes there is an opportunity and she grabbed it, and is standing with nothing to lose. And of course had Bill Shimmins and Quayle stood again, Jane Poole-Wilson would not, as you suggest, have stood. This isn't good democracy. You’re making a lot of assumptions. Quayle isn’t popular in Middle he was bottom of the poll last time. She could well have been planning to stand regardless anyway. Of course it’s good democracy. She’s a good candidate in a field of literally terrible candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: She’s a good candidate in a field of literally terrible candidates. Correct enough. But you miss the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Fluffy123 said: Yep - MF is only happy if it’s moaning. Well there’s a clue in ‘Manx’ Forums! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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