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23 minutes ago, oooohtony said:

 Only problem is I dare not open my mouth these days for fear of offending someone.

 

You don't shut up.

Also, right, if you are genuinely afraid of opening your mouth these days for fear of offending someone it would suggest that you already know that what you want to say is unmitigated offensive bollocks.

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13 minutes ago, Declan said:

That's nonsense mate. All those things apply to me (well except the love of motorsport and I was in my 20s in the 90s) and I'm not having to censor myself for fear of offending people. You'd only need to do that if you were going to say hurtful things about people's appearance or gender, sexuality or race. Why would you want to do that?

Disagree.

But to try and make the point which I (and lots of other people) think is perfectly valid, will just end up in a spat and every word I type being over analysed in the hunt for some offence or twisted to imply some sort of underlying intolerance of others.

So I won’t bother.  Which kind of backs up what Stu was saying.

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12 minutes ago, Declan said:

You'd only need to do that if you were going to say hurtful things about people's appearance or gender, sexuality or race. Why would you want to do that?

Hey, I know this one, it's called "protected characteristics"

(courtesy @HeliX @ballaughbiker)

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8 minutes ago, oooohtony said:

Disagree.

But to try and make the point which I (and lots of other people) think is perfectly valid, will just end up in a spat and every word I type being over analysed in the hunt for some offence or twisted to imply some sort of underlying intolerance of others.

So I won’t bother.  Which kind of backs up what Stu was saying.

If you genuinely believe that it would back Stu up. But you, a new poster we don't know, are asking us to trust you on that. 

I think some people are afraid of inadvertently upsetting people because they haven't taken the trouble to understand what might be hurtful. Isn't it better to find out what that is so you can take a conscious decision on whether to hurt people, than to self-censor unnecessarily and then play the martyr. 

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And then there are the people who just like to be controversial and don't give a bugger about whether someone will be offended by their statements.

And then get all hurt (and offended) when someone comes along and calls them out on their bullshit.

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1 hour ago, oooohtony said:

What is lad or ladders culture then?

I would class myself a “lad”

Teenager in the 90s.

Now a middle aged white straight guy who likes beer and football, motorsport, women and lots of other things that middle aged white men enjoy.

Falling into that group  apparently means I have a head start in every sense.

I am not black

I am not LGBT

I am not a woman

I am not disabled.

So by all counts I have it easier than anyone else.  Only problem is I dare not open my mouth these days for fear of offending someone.

Imagine a recruitment process these days where all candidates were equal on ability and experience.  All equally suitable for the position.

Me, a woman, a gay man, a black man and someone in a wheelchair.

Guess who is the least likely to get the job?

Not you if there is a quota to fill for the company.  Sad but true.

I wouldn't employ you anyway but that's an aside.:thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, oooohtony said:

What is lad or ladders culture then?

I would class myself a “lad”

Teenager in the 90s.

Now a middle aged white straight guy who likes beer and football, motorsport, women and lots of other things that middle aged white men enjoy.

Falling into that group  apparently means I have a head start in every sense.

I am not black

I am not LGBT

I am not a woman

I am not disabled.

So by all counts I have it easier than anyone else.  Only problem is I dare not open my mouth these days for fear of offending someone.

Imagine a recruitment process these days where all candidates were equal on ability and experience.  All equally suitable for the position.

Me, a woman, a gay man, a black man and someone in a wheelchair.

Guess who is the least likely to get the job?

The one with a chip on their shoulder?

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8 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said:

Not you if there is a quota to fill for the company.  Sad but true.

Exactly, and we all know it.

Would I have that conversation in mixed company at a dinner party?

No.  Guaranteed to end up be labelled sexist, racist or homophobic.

Sad but a reflection of the world we live in.

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19 minutes ago, oooohtony said:

Exactly, and we all know it.

Would I have that conversation in mixed company at a dinner party?

No.  Guaranteed to end up be labelled sexist, racist or homophobic.

Sad but a reflection of the world we live in.

I've had much more contentious conversations than that and not been accused of anything. Perhaps its the way you approach the conversation?

i.e. "I'm not sure affirmative action is always a good thing" vs "companies keep giving all our jobs to minorities".

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20 minutes ago, HeliX said:

I've had much more contentious conversations than that and not been accused of anything. Perhaps its the way you approach the conversation?

i.e. "I'm not sure affirmative action is always a good thing" vs "companies keep giving all our jobs to minorities".

Is it affirmative action though?

Where companies employ people to fill quotas it's only an affirmative action from the perspective that a box is ticked.

Not that best person for the job actually got the job, in the context big Tony us referring to:thumbsup:

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18 minutes ago, TerryFuchwit said:

Is it affirmative action though?

Where companies employ people to fill quotas it's only an affirmative action from the perspective that a box is ticked.

Not that best person for the job actually got the job, in the context big Tony us referring to:thumbsup:

Quotas are just an implementation of affirmative action, non?

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