Middle

[ManxTaxPayer]

17 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

His 'manifesto' is basically just 'down with this sort of thing',

You forgot the exclamation mark. 

[Keiran Hannifin]

2 hours ago, SleepyJoe said:

I'd like to see Keiran do well, but climate response must come more to the fore

I'm happy to answer any questions on regards to climate you might have? 

 

At the hustings, there was a question about climate change (oddly not on YouTube), where I stated meaningful differences need to be made across the island and considered in lots that we do. Rather than planting a bunch of token trees for PR. 

 

[x-in-man]

KH (or probably one of his helpers) shoved a glossy thing though the door with an additional bit of paper saying because of Covid he wasn’t going to knock on the doors to meet people.  Instead, posts on Facebook that he is in the pub and pop in to see him. 
 

Lazy.

[quilp]

Pity he can't get legally get a round in. 

[Keiran Hannifin]

12 minutes ago, x-in-man said:

KH (or probably one of his helpers) shoved a glossy thing though the door with an additional bit of paper saying because of Covid he wasn’t going to knock on the doors to meet people.  Instead, posts on Facebook that he is in the pub and pop in to see him. 
 

Lazy.

Its not lazy. And you have been quite liberal with your paraphrasing, please feel encouraged to share the actual slip. 

I am happy to come to your door, meet you in a pub, cafe, or anywhere else...There are a heck of alot of access ramps in Middle. Lots are shielding. I'm not refusing to see anyone, just not doing it uninvited whilst the current play is "we are learning to live with it, so shield if you don't feel safe". I still am chatting to plenty of people, as many have invited me. 

Also, it's mostly me delivering (on foot), or me plus a friend, or my wife. shy of last Monday eve where a friend delivered some for me. 

The reason being is its 62p per candidate(paid by the tax payer), per house hold to deliver. 5 candidates In Middle, over 2300 houses. 

65 Candidates in total.  That's alot of money for manifestos to be delivered that many people won't even read.

Me choosing to deliver by hand, and walking 15km on most days AND not knocking on doors uninvited, is the opposite of lazy. It's doing the right thing, not the easy thing. 

 

 

[quilp]

3 minutes ago, Keiran Hannifin said:

Lots are shielding...

Can I ask, are you vaccinated?

[Keiran Hannifin]

Just now, quilp said:

Can I ask, are you vaccinated?

Double vaccinated (because of the amount of people I'm meeting) and I test any days I have meetings. Also happy to mask/glove or whatever might make you feel better about it

[quilp]

Very wise. Thanks. 

[FatRoundMiddle]

So Stu (manx forums regular) peters, is only second last place to David Fowler amongst the vast majority on here and even his matey mates like wrighty put him possibly a very distant second to a much superior lady. You lot are supposed to be his close allies wtf you playing at. Its you lot, Frank, Dobsie, that bald German weirdo and (did they have a thing) Shirley on team stu and you have all let the big man down.

Don't you have any compassion for a hardworking talentless immigrant who arrived here driving taxis and worked his way up to boring repetitive loud mouth radio clown. That man has failed numerous times in business, has literally no money left and you lot begrudge him 70k a year to eak out a very comfortble retirement.

Hang your heads in shame. 

[Amadeus]

Second bottle of red or third? 

[The Duck of Atholl]

14 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

The real problem with Stu isn't just that his opinions are reactionary and incoherent (though they are) or even that, as the Fear and Loathing Guy remarked, that they're not his views but Jeremy Clarkson's (that's a bit unfair on Clarkson).  It that's all he sees the  job of an MHK as being - Having Opinions.

His 'manifesto' is basically just 'down with this sort of thing', but with no indication of how he would work to make things any better other than chunnering on the backbenches for five years, like a less well-informed Robertshaw.

I think that is a pretty nailed on assessment Roger.

[The Duck of Atholl]

Stu Peters promises very little (a safe election pledge) and has already stated he won’t seek to take up a Govt post. As for candidates like this I say “what’s the point?” Pressure of public opinion on social media has far greater impact on Govt decision making than some post middle age dude shouting the odds in Tynwald. 
Any solutions in his manifesto? Nope. Just this is the problem and that’s a problem.

[Declan]

18 hours ago, SleepyJoe said:

Stu Peters Middle manifesto:

https://www.gov.im/media/1374163/3501_stu_peters_a5_4pp_manifesto_18aug21_proof2.pdf

Posted before?

Horribly Orwellian. It’s like words get new meaning if you put them into a slogan. 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Declan

[Keiran Hannifin]

1 hour ago, The Duck of Atholl said:

Stu Peters promises very little (a safe election pledge) and has already stated he won’t seek to take up a Govt post. As for candidates like this I say “what’s the point?” Pressure of public opinion on social media has far greater impact on Govt decision making than some post middle age dude shouting the odds in Tynwald. 
Any solutions in his manifesto? Nope. Just this is the problem and that’s a problem.

Ive raised this a concern with multiple candidates, as well as ex MHKs. Re: scrutiny/backbenchers. 

Before this incoming administration, and it's new pay structure, there was financial incentive if you worked under a department, which has been removed. This would now effectively allow, or as much as encourage any MHK to be a 5 year back bencher, who only has to show the bare minimum effort. And there is not much that can be done if they do, but wait 5 years. 

I plan, if elected, to scrutinise for the first few months. Once I have learned the ropes well and have an understanding of how the new administration (and who the ministers of each department) work, I then intend to join whatever department(s) that will help me be the most useful tool to bring positive change forward. 

^^^^^ this is something to watch for in new administration, across all constituencies, as I suspect it will actually lead to less scrutiny, rather than more. 

[SleepyJoe]

17 hours ago, Keiran Hannifin said:

I'm happy to answer any questions on regards to climate you might have? 

 

At the hustings, there was a question about climate change (oddly not on YouTube), where I stated meaningful differences need to be made across the island and considered in lots that we do. Rather than planting a bunch of token trees for PR. 

 

Why isn't climate response the primary thrust of your manifesto? I see you as a planet positive candidate

Ramsey candidate Robert Cowell has this in his manifesto:

"Sustainability must be at the forefront of everything we do"

Edited September 5, 2021 by SleepyJoe