NHS app data for Manx residents

[2112]

40 minutes ago, quilp said:

Nah, don't ban him, he's entitled to call me a cunt. Which, admittedly I am, sometimes, so he's only half right. I've been called worse by bigger and better men. 

No need for rudeness on here or personal attacks. You can disagree to your hearts content but rudeness, and personal attacks can get you banned and no mates! I should also add there are one or two looney tunes on here who love to troll and criticise every post on here - they get banned too.

[The Central Scrutiniser]

Ah, take no notice of Quilp. He has issues. My mother always thought there was something odd about him anyway.

[quilp]

Lovely woman your mum. Best part of you ran down her leg. 

[manx-person]

On 8/22/2021 at 10:35 PM, Anyone said:

Tell you what , one jab in the IOM and one 1 the UK then you have zero chance of getting  a pass from the IOM or the UK. Not sure why but since it affects few I doubt anyone cares.

Why do you think that ?

As I understand it when the Covid Pass service is launched for Isle of Man residents it will be able to produce a vaccination certificate for those in that situation 

[Declan]

On 8/22/2021 at 10:50 PM, Anyone said:

And while we bang for how ‘great’ our NHS is let’s not forget how hopeless they are. At record keeping , having an IT system fit for purpose , at coping with anything. Let’s face it the NHS failed , mainly I will say because our respective governments don’t fund them properly. So we have a tough choice , continue with a crap health service , or increase our tax rate to 30 % basic and 45% above say £50,000 and scrap now the tax cap ( which is let’s face it unfair ). I’d vote for a brave person who proposed that , in a CM vote. And that is what Declan will never get and that is a shame. On us all.

What've I done? I think - 

• The NHS managers have messed up on this info sharing and others. 
• Would support a tax raise - if it went to services. 
• Hate the tax cap.
• Support an all-island vote for CM

[Cambon]

1 hour ago, Declan said:

What've I done? I think - 

• The NHS managers have messed up on this info sharing and others. 
• Would support a tax raise - if it went to services. 
• Hate the tax cap.
• Support an all-island vote for CM

I don't support a tax rise at all. Cut the waste, and use the circa 23% NI tax for what it is supposed to be used for rather than putting everything in one pot to be spent on government bloat and vanity projects! 

[John Wright]

9 hours ago, Cambon said:

I don't support a tax rise at all. Cut the waste, and use the circa 23% NI tax for what it is supposed to be used for rather than putting everything in one pot to be spent on government bloat and vanity projects! 

Except NI isn’t 23%. Lots of people pay none (dividend income). Or a much lower rate ( self employed ). And there’s a cap on employees contributions (above £43,000 they only pay 1%). 

And it doesn’t go into one pot to pay for bloat or vanity projects. It’s paid into the separate NI fund. It all goes to pay state pensions, after a small health service precept ( and it is very small ). State retirement pensions and contributory benefits is what it exists for, not health care or social care. What did you think it was supposed to be used for.

Id be happy for all income to be subject to NI at 20%. Subject to low income exemptions. Play around with the percentages between employer and employee. Then use it for NHS and social care funding, as well as state pensions.

Manx political careers have been lost raiding the NI fund ( to build new Nobles ) and another may yet be hit by the take for Covid benefits, although there’s not been the sort of kick back there was about the hospital..

[Happier diner]

On 8/22/2021 at 11:42 PM, Anyone said:

 Don’t doubt you’ll report me you being a quilp cunt kind of cunt. 

He should. You are a disgrace.

[TheTeapot]

4 minutes ago, John Wright said:

 Or a much lower rate ( self employed ).

Its not that much lower. On £25000 the difference is less than £200.

[John Wright]

1 minute ago, TheTeapot said:

Its not that much lower. On £25000 the difference is less than £200.

You’re ignoring the amount paid by the employer.

[TheTeapot]

Oh right yeah. That makes a difference.

[ellanvannin2010]

30 minutes ago, John Wright said:

 

Id be happy for all income to be subject to NI at 20%. Subject to low income exemptions. Play around with the percentages between employer and employee. Then use it for NHS and social care funding, as well as state pensions.

 

You would be happy then if people over state pension age paid NI if they worked and/ or paid it on a private pension income (not at 20% necessarily)?.

 

[manx-person]

Thought this was about the NHS App data ?

[John Wright]

30 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said:

You would be happy then if people over state pension age paid NI if they worked and/ or paid it on a private pension income (not at 20% necessarily)?.

 

The proportion for health and social care, perhaps. The state pension, under the Manx System should have been paid for.

It needs working up, and properly integrating into the tax system.

[manx-person]

On 8/22/2021 at 10:35 PM, Anyone said:

Tell you what , one jab in the IOM and one 1 the UK then you have zero chance of getting  a pass from the IOM or the UK. Not sure why but since it affects few I doubt anyone cares.

I think you might find that people do care, and that when the NHS Covid Pass  launches (soon) for Manx residents that you'll have few concerns in this regard.