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Improve End of Life Care before Assisted Dying - not before !


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1 hour ago, A fool and his money..... said:

I'm not sure it was either, just seemed a strange immediate response to me. The question regarding the reciprocal health agreement was to try to clarify it one way or the other.

I think one of the main problems with introducing an assisted dying act (which I fully support), is to remove any possibility of anyone being dispatched for any other reason than to end their own suffering in line with their own wishes.

I have no doubt the family and doctors motives are closely scrutinised to make sure this is the case. I think it is only right that government's motivation in enacting the law is similarly scrutinised. 

It seems to me that including it in the reciprocal health agreement would be an effective way of doing this in the case of the UK.

As Lost Login has pointed out though, opening it up to anyone but our own residents would bring its own problems.

The post before mine from 2112 talked about 'suicide tourism' and my response had that in mind. I'm not suggesting that's why we should introduce the legislation as I've always thought that the most fundamental human right should be to have the option to check out if today was unbearable and tomorrow is going to be worse. I only hope that I have the mental and physical ability to determine that for myself if that's how my dice fall.

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9 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said:

Stu's immediate response, which is what I was questioning.

I agree with everything you say and your motivation 100%. We are living longer but not necessarily better, and I also agree that there should be an ethical debate.

What I don't think should be considered in any way, is how much money we are likely to earn from people from the UK using any assisted dying law we decide to introduce.

I'm not saying that's what Stu suggested and am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, I just think it's a worrying initial response from a serving politician, that's all.

Are we living longer. I think I read somewhere that is not necessarily the case.

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20 hours ago, Stu Peters said:

The post before mine from 2112 talked about 'suicide tourism' and my response had that in mind. I'm not suggesting that's why we should introduce the legislation as I've always thought that the most fundamental human right should be to have the option to check out if today was unbearable and tomorrow is going to be worse. I only hope that I have the mental and physical ability to determine that for myself if that's how my dice fall.

Fair enough. I agree with you too and would want the same as you in the same position.

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