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13 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

According to this heraldry website:

Underneath is a scroll with the words "Borough of Douglas", and another scroll containing the words in Manx Kiannoortys cheus thie jeh Kiannoortys, which, in English means Government within a Government, the Latin being Imperium in Imperio.

 Imperium in Imperio sounds even more alarming and self-aggrandising.  Maybe it should translate as "Always empire-building".

I’m aware of that. I’m just saying that Reiltys is better Manx

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5 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

According to this heraldry website:

Underneath is a scroll with the words "Borough of Douglas", and another scroll containing the words in Manx Kiannoortys cheus thie jeh Kiannoortys, which, in English means Government within a Government, the Latin being Imperium in Imperio.

 Imperium in Imperio sounds even more alarming and self-aggrandising.  Maybe it should translate as "Always empire-building".

The phrase imperium in imperio is often used to depict something like the Catholic Church and it’s powers inside the secular state prior to the reformation. So something like state within a state. But imperio also means command, or authority, as well as empire,  and many related things in between.

im not sure that kiannoortys is a good translation of government. In fact I’m pretty sure that the whole motto is cod Manx and linguistically a nonsense. For instance Cheus possibly translates as within. Thie is house or home, and jeh is of.

I think the intended meaning is more akin to “an authority within the country” which is much less sinister. Note “an” and “within” not “the” and “over”.  Or “a home of governanance ( or authority ) within the realm “ I know it’s shades and splitting hairs, and I’m neither a Latin nor a Manx scholar..

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To be fair, context is required.

Back in the day, people not only flooded from around the Island to the metropolis of Douglas, but from around the British Isles too.

It's just a bit of a shit-kicking village now, but it wasn't always thus. 

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5 hours ago, John Wright said:

...and I’m neither a Latin nor a Manx scholar..

Our Chief Minister is a dab hand at Latin. And he says Faster My a lot.

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