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17 minutes ago, doc.fixit said:

New doesn't always equate to better!

Existing doesn’t always equate to acceptable.

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4 hours ago, english zloty said:

That is a really obvious problem that doesn't seem to have been thought through. Why become a department member in a shit department for no reward. On the hand queues will form for some, Treasury and DFE for example

I agree I think it’s going to be difficult to fill some posts when people have no financial incentive to get tarnished by what those departments actually do. I wouldn’t go on the DOI even for £150K a year. It’s a thankless task of constantly making excuses for all the general assholery that goes on. 

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16 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Alternatively it's designed to do exactly that.  Politicians may only agree to become Ministers and Departmental Members if they are allowed to have real power when they do so.

It would be interesting to see if their Departments themselves permit them to wield that power? For example, the much maligned Tim Baker at DOI who has frequently been reported as having his wishes/will ignored by the Dept.

Would the Dept take any notice?

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2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

It would be interesting to see if their Departments themselves permit them to wield that power?

Indeed, but that's part of the problem.  They've got used to the Ministers and Members being no more than official apologisers who allow them the get away with whatever they want and sign everything put in front of them.. Some probably even believe that's the way governments should operate and that they're all super-intelligent Sir Humphreys  wisely guiding the Island.  The results prove otherwise.

It's not just obviously malfunctioning Departments such as the DoI that are the problem though.  All the other Departments conspire in this, especially the 'enabling' ones: Treasury, Cabinet Office, AG's Office.  They're not only incompetent in their own right, the allow the spending Departments to get away with whatever they want - even against the will of Ministers and Tynwald.

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2 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

What this all boils down to is the total unsuitability of Tim Baker to hold office. Weak, ineffectual and arrogant. 

It may be true but the malaise goes deeper than that, Baker's just symptomatic of it.

The democratic will is being ignored, pan-government, in favour of self-service and self-preservation with no small portion of ego also thrown into the mix.

Every recent external report, commissioned by Govt itself and received, points to this.

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56 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

What this all boils down to is the total unsuitability of Tim Baker to hold office. Weak, ineffectual and arrogant. 

but what sets him apart from the others ?

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Just now, WTF said:

but what sets him apart from the others ?

Probably the arrogance and shitty demeanour towards anyone who dares question his precious DOI? 

 

Having said that the same attributes are often displayed by HRH Chief Minister at the Media Briefings 

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2 hours ago, AlanShimmin said:

Having said that the same attributes are often displayed by HRH Chief Minister at the Media Briefings 

Correct. Organisational culture starts at the top. There is no more palpable dismissive, arrogant, egotistical (and misogynistic) approach than that of Quayle. Other Ministers simply follow suit. And of course, like Quayle, they are actually empty vessels, devoid of all but their bluster. 

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54 minutes ago, Uhtred said:

Correct. Organisational culture starts at the top. There is no more palpable dismissive, arrogant, egotistical (and misogynistic) approach than that of Quayle. Other Ministers simply follow suit. And of course, like Quayle, they are actually empty vessels, devoid of all but their bluster. 

We're fortunate that Quayle is stepping down. But we need to deselect anyone who has tried to copy his style. 

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2 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

We're fortunate that Quayle is stepping down. But we need to deselect anyone who has tried to copy his style. 

And how do we deselect?  Unfortunately, 'tis the GMP who will elect or re-elect the next bunch.  If only we had a free, intelligent and inquisitive press here. 

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10 hours ago, Gladys said:

And how do we deselect?  Unfortunately, 'tis the GMP who will elect or re-elect the next bunch.  If only we had a free, intelligent and inquisitive press here. 

if only the 'G'  had merit.

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13 hours ago, Uhtred said:

Correct. Organisational culture starts at the top. There is no more palpable dismissive, arrogant, egotistical (and misogynistic) approach than that of Quayle.

Sadly to say I have to agree. It did seem to set the tone. 

12 hours ago, AlanShimmin said:

We're fortunate that Quayle is stepping down. But we need to deselect anyone who has tried to copy his style.seemed to think it was acceptable to behave in the way they did. 

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14 hours ago, Gladys said:

And how do we deselect?  Unfortunately, 'tis the GMP who will elect or re-elect the next bunch.  If only we had a free, intelligent and inquisitive press here. 

Even the GMP can't deselect, they can only select what seem to be the least bad options.  The local authority results suggest there is desire for change, but in a lot of cases it was partly thwarted by a lack of suitable candidates.

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On 8/1/2021 at 9:42 PM, Gladys said:

And how do we deselect?  Unfortunately, 'tis the GMP who will elect or re-elect the next bunch.  If only we had a free, intelligent and inquisitive press here. 

Did I hear right on the radio at lunchtime - Andy Wint calling pout the CM for his boycott.

Has someone at Manx Radio grown a pair? Can we expect more ?

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