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24 minutes ago, GD4ELI said:

Well, western countries, not the poor folks in Burundi who are having problems as a result.

We have "poor folks" here who are having problems too, through no fault of their own, not climate change related I grant you but we should remove the log from our own eye before attempting to remove it from others.

You'd know nowt about poverty having had a somewhat privileged upbringing and wanting for nowt...

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2 hours ago, Apple said:

Exactly. And that is what they did.

Emergency contingency planning should be in place to respond to any envisaged community and organisational shortfalls in the safety, care and treatment of people. 

It is too late when an enquiry starts. We should have learnt the lessons by now and table top and actual rehearsals need to factor charity failures in them, although they are not usually an overnight emergency. Although it could be. 

I agree to the extent that there appears to be no national emergency response plan as has been evidenced by the chaotic and improvised response to Covid. But that is very different to stepping in when a charity goes kaput. 

Generally, hiwever, I think we are on the same wavelength.

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2 hours ago, quilp said:

You'd know nowt about poverty having had a somewhat privileged upbringing and wanting for nowt..

Nothing like a clichéd Northern Accent when talking of British poverty!!! 😉😉

 

The Hospice has to be the best example of the Govt abrogating their responsibilities to the populace. If we need end of life support, then that is what we elect Govts for and pay taxes for? Sure there is a subsidy in this case but in other Third Sector services it is the Govt withdrawing their provision to rely on a charity to take over.

Then if the charity fails, there it is an obligation of the  Govt to re-take control of the service, after all, they have saved money in the meantime!

The Third Sector have provided fantastic services but this has led to savings on the revenue and this has to be recognised when things go wrong. Then our Govt are obliged to step in with support and finance as at the Corrin Home?

There is a strange public reaction to Charities, they are willing to donate millions to charities yet would baulk at  paying another 2-3 % tax to cover these services!!!!

Sure there is the belief that anyone other than the Govt are better at providing services but that is an ongoing argument!!!

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This is a prime example of charities having to step in to provide what some would say is a Government responsibility. In the Uk Boris did a U turn after Marcus Rashford shamed the Government.

Well done to these people.

Shame on the Government. 

https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/volunteers-hand-out-109-lunches-in-three-days/

P.S. - No comment / mention yet from David Gawne, who is supposed to be co-ordinating these sorts of things. Not like him to miss a bit of press. 😄

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That pillock Ashford been on the Nations Propaganda Mouthpiece saying the Corrin Home is a strategic site and they have been working with the trustees. Personally I find that hard to believe. Let’s face it, the trustees will be pressured into what he and Manx Care, not what is right or what the perceived wishes of the charity.

 

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2 hours ago, 2112 said:

That pillock Ashford been on the Nations Propaganda Mouthpiece saying the Corrin Home is a strategic site and they have been working with the trustees. Personally I find that hard to believe. Let’s face it, the trustees will be pressured into what he and Manx Care, not what is right or what the perceived wishes of the charity.

Haven't the trustees run out of money?

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9 hours ago, GD4ELI said:

Haven't the trustees run out of money?

They are debating and debating as to what to do with the building. Im sure it’s going to be a battle royal between the trustees and the DHSC/Manx Care. Will Manx Care invest in a Care Home for the West of the Island? It may be demolished and used as a car park, as with other Government demolished buildings. 

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I listened with sadness at the radio today, where the breast cancer charity need a machine at Nobles, and are fund raising to afford to buy one. My anger at Government for the profligate stupidity and the amount of money they waste knows no bounds, when charities have to fund raise for utterly vital life saving equipment. I hope we don't have a raft of tame MHK's this time, who will react when a clear waste of resources takes place. I applaud all the charities, but they are having to do what any civilised society should be funding and not pissing money away on a sadly predictable frequent basis. Government and the CS are trashing the island, it has to stop !!

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20 minutes ago, asitis said:

I listened with sadness at the radio today, where the breast cancer charity need a machine at Nobles, and are fund raising to afford to buy one. My anger at Government for the profligate stupidity and the amount of money they waste knows no bounds, when charities have to fund raise for utterly vital life saving equipment. I hope we don't have a raft of tame MHK's this time, who will react when a clear waste of resources takes place. I applaud all the charities, but they are having to do what any civilised society should be funding and not pissing money away on a sadly predictable frequent basis. Government and the CS are trashing the island, it has to stop !!

Another problem is having supplied such machines nobody up there knows how to use them!

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12 hours ago, asitis said:

I listened with sadness at the radio today, where the breast cancer charity need a machine at Nobles, and are fund raising to afford to buy one. My anger at Government for the profligate stupidity and the amount of money they waste knows no bounds, when charities have to fund raise for utterly vital life saving equipment.

It is frustrating sometimes but the full picture is not often shown.

There are massive amounts of money held in Trusts around the Island (eg Henry Bloom Nobles Trust) who have provided equipment or made significant contributions before. Equipment issues are relatively straightforward. It may even cover some training course if needed. 

The issues though that this brings are ones of supplies and staffing, especially if it is a totally new pice of kit that needs specialist and / or extra staff to operate. That brings longer financial commitment for Government for increased head count and staffing costs.  

There are and will continue to be pressures brought to bear for extending, expanding, updating new techniques and equipment and then the cycle of replacement in due course inevitably arises. In all fairness it is a tricky balancing act sometimes and clinical priorities have to be determined carefully, especially in the the cacophony of continual demands for more and further services.  Not easy to get it right sometimes either. 

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31 minutes ago, Apple said:

It is frustrating sometimes but the full picture is not often shown.

There are massive amounts of money held in Trusts around the Island (eg Henry Bloom Nobles Trust) who have provided equipment or made significant contributions before. Equipment issues are relatively straightforward. It may even cover some training course if needed. 

The issues though that this brings are ones of supplies and staffing, especially if it is a totally new pice of kit that needs specialist and / or extra staff to operate. That brings longer financial commitment for Government for increased head count and staffing costs.  

There are and will continue to be pressures brought to bear for extending, expanding, updating new techniques and equipment and then the cycle of replacement in due course inevitably arises. In all fairness it is a tricky balancing act sometimes and clinical priorities have to be determined carefully, especially in the the cacophony of continual demands for more and further services.  Not easy to get it right sometimes either. 

I can see this fully, but wasting money, as many of our recent administrations seem to be expert at, cannot assist in any way !

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