Zarley Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 59 minutes ago, Banker said: Some of above examples are why I have continued private health care although thankfully not used for 5 years for wife. If I need a hip or specialist treatment I can get quickly & with access to best hospital Well good for you. Too bad it sucks for people who cannot afford private health insurance. I suppose you think people choose to work in low-paying jobs, never mind the fact that if people didn't work low-paying jobs, your local Shoprite's shelves would be empty and your Tesco delivery order would never arrive. And that's just the tip of the inequity iceberg. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Zarley said: Well good for you. Too bad it sucks for people who cannot afford private health insurance. I suppose you think people choose to work in low-paying jobs, never mind the fact that if people didn't work low-paying jobs, your local Shoprite's shelves would be empty and your Tesco delivery order would never arrive. And that's just the tip of the inequity iceberg. No I don’t think people choose low paying jobs & never suggested anything of the sort, your comments are typical of those who can’t stand people who have something they don’t!! I said in this same thread that NI should be raised for high earners which will hopefully benefit low earners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Those adverts after the news about Manx Care wanting to recruit unpaid volunteers to be patient /services user representatives. There are many lay people with little or no experience of health / social care on boards and committees on the island at great expense, some earning hundred of pounds a month plus travelling expenses. Some even from off the island.! If Manx Care are serious about building services around patients, their needs and experiences etc then what don't they pay representatives similar amounts who could potentially add so much more value and insights to what really happens. Seems a bit the wrong way round to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 According to some surveys the UK is 40,000 doctors short. For too long we have relied on importing them from other countries. Time to train some of our own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman34 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: According to some surveys the UK is 40,000 doctors short. For too long we have relied on importing them from other countries. Time to train some of our own. Yeah, there's that training centre down at Hills Meadow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: According to some surveys the UK is 40,000 doctors short. For too long we have relied on importing them from other countries. Time to train some of our own. About that... https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/10/medical-students-in-england-to-be-offered-compensation-if-they-move-to-a-different-school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: According to some surveys the UK is 40,000 doctors short. For too long we have relied on importing them from other countries. Time to train some of our own. Lob in some dentists too. Apparently we've only got 4.73 NHS dentists now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Trickle down economics really isn't working. Sooner or later the whole system is going to need a complete reset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 The sooner the better to start fixing things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 9 hours ago, wrighty said: How is it defined? Is lung cancer a preventable disease (largely yes - don't smoke, and you probably won't get lung cancer)? Probably yes. But you could die of lung cancer having been nowhere near tobacco all your life. But your death will be attributed to “ a smoking related illness” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: Probably yes. But you could die of lung cancer having been nowhere near tobacco all your life. But your death will be attributed to “ a smoking related illness” Like Roy Castle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, finlo said: Like Roy Castle? I think Roy Castle performed in all sort of venues including those where smoking was the norm. So he was near tobacco. And your point is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Every figure is a failure of government strategy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, snowman said: Every figure is a failure of government strategy Some figures can demonstrate that the Government have got their strategy right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I think Roy Castle performed in all sort of venues including those where smoking was the norm. So he was near tobacco. And your point is? That you don't have to be a smoker to succumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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