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18 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Yes I would say that David Ashford would be one of the favourites to get the position.

Most of the electorate (the majority of MF contributors apart, inexplicably) recognize and appreciate his efforts and the difficulties he has had to overcome to deal with this pandemic.

They don’t tend to make snide remarks about his appearance and pronunciation but judge him on his actions.

(Cue for some idiot to bring up him shredding correspondence which has been done to death)

You have to be fucking joking

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1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said:

You’re right RM is not an idiot and neither are you and a number of others.

That’s why I get so frustrated with what, on occasion, comes across as visceral hatred of this regime, particularly Messrs Howard and Ashcroft.

It goes beyond reasoned criticism of their policies and actions. Yes disagree with those if you think they are wrong. Opinions should be expressed.

But I can’t understand the blanket criticism of everything they do. The attitude that they are doing it therefore it must be wrong.

It just seems so irrational.

 


What policies? They put nothing before the electorate prior to the last election & appointed themselves to govern without any popular mandate whatsoever. Little wonder they were so derided

Quayle only got the CM job because hardly anyone wanted Cannan doing it

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6 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

Quayle only got the CM job because hardly anyone wanted Cannan doing it

Well it was 12 votes each in keys so not correct & it was the unelected legco who gave him the job.

Legco not involved this time, I think Chris Thomas is a good bet

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12 minutes ago, Banker said:

Well it was 12 votes each in keys so not correct & it was the unelected legco who gave him the job.

Legco not involved this time, I think Chris Thomas is a good bet


ie. There wasn't a majority in the democratically elected House for either of them

& the unelected chamber put Quayle in office because they didn't want Cannan getting the job

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3 hours ago, Dr. Grumpy said:

Too closely allied to Howard Quayle (apparently).

Why not Julie Edge?

I don’t think she’s that close to Howard, if it’s a female then Clare Barber is the one. However depending on results I think 2/3 females in Comin would be good.

Still think Chris Thomas is a good compromise bet

 

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57 minutes ago, Banker said:

compromise

 

And this is the problem.  With the current system I think we are likely to get a chief minister who is the least disliked, rather than preferred by the most.  Reminds me of a couple I once knew - she wanted to spend a year in the US, he in Australia, so they compromised on Canada - a place that was fine, but where neither of them really wanted to be.

I'd like to see a directly elected CM with candidates declaring beforehand, and the vote being in parallel to the election of MHKs.  And, and this is quite important to overcome the 'who does he think he is' factor, the winning candidate wouldn't necessarily have to be returned as an MHK.  I could certainly see a situation where someone wins a whole island vote but doesn't get in locally, and this would not necessarily be a bad thing.

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9 hours ago, Dr. Grumpy said:

Too closely allied to Howard Quayle (apparently).

Why not Julie Edge?

JPW isn't. She deliberately was not a member of the Government. Offered sensible solutions and compromises in Tynwald and Legco. Ideal as a leader and very articulate. She would be a massive upgrade on what we have had over the last two decades. So she doesn't stand a chance.

As for JE that is not a good idea at all. Just listen to a Tynwald sitting.

6 hours ago, Banker said:

Still think Chris Thomas is a good compromise bet

 

Pretty sure he wouldn't consider himself one. A very intelligent man but a nightmare to listen to. Policy and Reform suited him.

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