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7 minutes ago, P.K. said:

One solution to that could be to make the CM ballot transparent.

You could then tell the candidate your wishes on how you want them to vote re the CM and they'll never get your vote again if they don't.

Think of the fun you could have...

It is transparent already.  Here's last time's vote:

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Of course the problem is that there's no guarantee that the candidate you want for CM will be elected by their constituency or nominated if they are.

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41 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

It is transparent already.  Here's last time's vote:

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Of course the problem is that there's no guarantee that the candidate you want for CM will be elected by their constituency or nominated if they are.

Are all of the ballots reported back in real time?

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17 minutes ago, P.K. said:

Are all of the ballots reported back in real time?

If you'd followed the link you would have seen that the votes were then read out in alphabetical order by the Clerk.  It would have been broadcast live and then appeared on listen again shortly after.  The Hansard would have appeared fairly quickly as well, as it was a short session and there would have been no backlog.

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1 minute ago, the stinking enigma said:

Voting for oneself doesn't really sit right with me. What happened to the house being honourable? Even messi and ronaldo usually voted for the other, never themselves. Most unseemly in my view.

A good point to a degree, but if you don't think you are the best for the job, what would you do?  The candidates should abstain, IMHO,  as they have an interest in the matter. 

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1 minute ago, Gladys said:

A good point to a degree, but if you don't think you are the best for the job, what would you do?  The candidates should abstain, IMHO,  as they have an interest in the matter. 

That would be the honourable thing to do. However…

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40 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

Should the lack of democracy in the choosing of our government of the day be an issue of good governance in which the Governator should involve himself?

No because he is completely unelected & appointed by the crown at great expense to Manx taxpayers & is the complete opposite of democracy!!

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2 hours ago, quilp said:

Indeed he isn’t - Ramsay’s analysis of the local political scene is consistently the best on offer and accurate 95% of the time. As this particular article shows. 

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10 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

But, but . . .good governance is his job :-)

But as we know from Dr Ranson's evidence, good governance on the Isle of Man is defined as doing what the English do but later.  So following the same same system as they do must be impeccable.

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18 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

But as we know from Dr Ranson's evidence, good governance on the Isle of Man is defined as doing what the English do but later.  So following the same same system as they do must be impeccable.

Good governance is not so much about the decisions made, but how they are made.  It is also about upholding principles of irreproachable fair dealing, honesty and integrity.  If the system you have to make decisions cannot support those principles, then it is broken. 

Just in case anyone needs a crib sheet for cross examining the candidates who call on them, these are the 7 Nolan Principles of Public Life:-

Honesty

Openness

Integrity 

Accountability

Selflessness

Objectivity

Leadership 

Ask yourself if they understand them and, more importantly, how they intend to adhere to them if elected.

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