Two-lane Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I still do not see any press articles about the Ranson hearing. Has the gov. put a D-notice on the hearing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 14 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Has the gov. put a D-notice on the hearing? Yes...'Duuuuuuuh! ...lessons will be learned yet again'......not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 39 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Yes...'Duuuuuuuh! ...lessons will be learned yet again'......not. It's been adjourned to March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, Gladys said: It's been adjourned to March. I don't suppose you perhaps have a link to the press release, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, Two-lane said: I don't suppose you perhaps have a link to the press release, do you? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/pension-experts-give-evidence-to-dr-ranson-tribunal/⁹ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Manx Care spends more than £30m on agency and bank workers in 2022 - Manx Radio Eye watering figures here. It's been economic policy for years and this is what it costs the taxpayer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 24 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/pension-experts-give-evidence-to-dr-ranson-tribunal/⁹ The hired experts are bickering over how long they think she'll live. It is fucking insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 39 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: The hired experts are bickering over how long they think she'll live. It is fucking insane. It is not insane behaviour - it is sane, deliberate, disgraceful, despicable, vindictive behaviour by members of the Government. The difference between the maximum and minimum amount that Ranson might receive is really trivial. It is easy to conclude that the "negotiations" are not to reduce the amount the Government (which is actually you and me) will have to pay to Ranson but to make clear to everyone how whistleblowers are treated in the Isle of Man. The Government lost the employment tribunal by a country mile. A just response would have been to not argue against the costs claimed, but to pay up and offer a profound apology for the behaviour of certain government employees. Although the present actions are being initiated by "the Government" it is being done by people - and those people have names, although you will not see them in any press release. The MHKs who might be inclined to comment on events cannot do so because the President of Tynwald (let's name names - it's Laurence Skelly) has declared the subject sub judice, so MHKs have had a D-notice slapped on their forehead. Edited January 30 by Two-lane 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 16 minutes ago, Two-lane said: It is not insane behaviour - it is sane, deliberate, disgraceful, despicable, vindictive behaviour by members of the Government. Well no. It’s just one factor that has to be considered in coming to a compensation figure. It’s normal practice to try and reduce the amount that that the respondent( ie Manx Taxpayer in the form of the Government) is in for. Not despicable or vindictive behaviour, just the way the world works. To think otherwise is naive No doubt Dr Ransoms people will introduce their own arguments as to why the award should be as high as they can get it. As they should. One party wants to get as much as it can. The other wants to reduce their liability as much as it can. ‘‘ Twas ever thus, whoever wants to claim the moral high ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/28/2023 at 7:28 PM, doc.fixit said: Just reading the political biography of Charles Kerruish. Ref.The Health Service in April 1951........'We must face up to the fact that our Health Scheme is out of control, and is a menace to every aspect of our life'. Nothing changes it appears............1951, gosh. And right-wing politicians have done their level best to fuck it up ever since, here and in the UK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, TheTeapot said: The hired experts are bickering over how long they think she'll live. It is fucking insane. I agree. Actuarial predictions only work when averaged over a large population. Arguing when an individual may pop their clogs based on general principles is nonsense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/28/2023 at 7:34 PM, Two-lane said: Is the Ranson remedy hearing over? Is there any more news? No and no. The first day of the Remedy Hearing was snowed off, though the other three days went ahead. The first day was supposed to have heard expert evidence on the effect Dr Ranson's treatment had on her health. The next day the government side decided to illustrate this by bullying her in the witness box so relentlessly that she needed breaks to recover from it and presumably from being re-traumatised by making her relive the events. Now the facts and verdict of the case have already been decided, so all this would have done is strengthened the case for a higher payout. From a financial point of view it was completely counter-productive, so it's difficult to see why the government side would have behaved in this way except out of spite and a desire for revenge. Their KC would have consulted with his clients, the DHSC, and would have had someone from the AG's Office siting next to him. This behaviour had to have been sanctioned by them. There will have to be an extra day, it was said in March, to hear from the experts, but the date hasn't been announced yet, they're presumably checking that experts and Tribunal members are all available. One thing that doesn't seem to have been discussed much is the problems over disclosure and the way that this was done, even though the way that the government handled this has been shown since the original Tribunal to be not just wrong with respect to particular bits of information, but wrong in the whole way it was done (which makes you wonder about other cases). Maybe the Tribunal decided they already had enough information to form a judgement. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) The way Dr Ranson has been maltreated has been very firmly established by the Tribunal.The perpetrators of that abuse have been condemned in the most scathing terms, as were the answers given by the minister when questioned by her counsel. Further attacks on her at this stage can not be justified on the basis of a routine legal approach to mitigate a punitive settlement.They are spiteful revenge for standing up, but more especially…. for winning. It will only further the reputational damage done to the Island as an employer of medical professionals and will serve to put off those who may not yet have been deterred from coming to work here. Edited January 31 by hampsterkahn 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 This is not looking good for Ballasalla patients! https://gef.im/2023/01/31/gps-plan-to-quit/?fbclid=IwAR2ejri2ZkK58jeGN9aWsdUDu4GwSgzFtmyXn3HsP6HCFm0DKYeiFr_JbF0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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