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6 hours ago, CallMeCurious said:

Just caught this by PM.

 

https://iomfloodhub.im/your-area-menu/ramsey-and-sulby/

Skimmed over the plans and they are quite monsterous. Same as Laxey with raised pavement behind the higher wall and 20m of concrete steps along the entire Queens Prom from the harbour piers to the Queens Pier.  

 

 

They made a complete dogs breakfast of the Douglas Promenade, I dread to think of what will happen with this. It will decimate Ramsey.  If it was done by normal off island and competent contractors, it could be fine to time and budget. Unfortunately it’s the Isle of Man …………… where you can, so it’s so micro managed by civil servants, politicos and those without experience, along with consultants, so it’s an unhealthy recipe for chaos. Still if Allinson makes Chief Minister, this job will send him into retirement………… Quayle Mk2.

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Ramsey Commissioners have already expressed doubts about DOI's ability to deliver the Quay proposals following the Douglas Prom shambles.

A further project of this size is DOI fantasy material, as @TheTeapothas suggested above, how does this tie in with the development of the marina too, although I'm told that the DOI itself have yet to receive any development or financing proposals that they regard as viable and as such it's a non-starter?

If we're going to go down this route for flood defence, let's have some competent and sizeable UK Engineering Contractors involved please, from design to completion. Not the piecemeal shambles we've seen in Douglas.

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7 hours ago, TheTeapot said:

No marina then.

The bit that I find interesting in the design is the proposal to have 20-30 concrete steps in a wide 16m strip to absorb the wave energy. So in a decade or two these will wear away and become a perfect ramp to launch the waves right up to the wall.

Not sure where the buses will go in during TT course closures if there are now raised pavements with steps and ramps. Guess no more parking on that side of thew road unsless you've got a monster truck.

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3 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

 

A further project of this size is DOI fantasy material, as @TheTeapothas suggested above, how does this tie in with the development of the marina too, although I'm told that the DOI itself have yet to receive any development or financing proposals that they regard as viable and as such it's a non-starter?

The marina was never getting built. It's total pie in the sky. Peter Karran wanting to build a spaceport in Onchan Village would be more realistic. 

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22 hours ago, Numbnuts said:

DOI member and of course MHK Rob Callister was asked on facebook this morning did he know about these plans for Ramsey. His one word answer ...No ..says it all really how the DOI operate .

Might also be an indicator as to how RC operates too....?

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11 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

That doesn't explain where the original detailed plans that caused this came from though?

Another spot of doodling by the Crayonistas?

Consultants

Following a commitment to the people of Ramsey, the Advisory Flood Group supported by specialist consultants JBA Consulting have assessed the flood risk and developed different design concept for three different areas on Ramsey Coast: Ramsey Queens Promenade, Ramsey North Promenade and the area between The Vollan and Dog Mills.

https://iomfloodhub.im/media/1181/typical_section_ramsey_south_opt_a.pdf

https://iomfloodhub.im/media/1182/typical_section_ramsey_south_opt_b.pdf

https://iomfloodhub.im/media/1169/ga_ramsey_south.pdf

Basically kill the beach with concrete by the looks of it. IMHO

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Apparently RML are commisoniung a 6 month marine impact survey, spinning the project 90 degrees, leaving 7 hectares of beach and not the 12 previously mooted as a public amenity. You already know the result of the impact study will be along the lines of lets build a few artifical reefs out of junk to make up for the environmental damage.

I wonder if in years to come we will have to bulldoze sea weed off the beach, import sand to replace sand lost every winter on the postage stamp beach to tidal action while dredging the harbour entrance every 3-6 months and relocating the lifeboat station. I hope they have a lot of public green space in the plan for the dog walkers.

Apparently 200-300 jobs and £300 million p.a. benefits.

 

 

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