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52 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

No one has any idea now what the the polices and programmes of the new government are to be - an utterly absurd situation at the fag end of a general election process

That's one of the positives for electing a party. 

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1 hour ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

That's one of the positives for electing a party. 

This is true but unlikely to ever happen here. So we have what we have. So we’ve had an election and a chief minister has been appointed and the electorate have no clue as to what to expect. Well more of the same for 5 years I expect. What needs to be done is to trim big government departments and increase taxes ( if people want proper services ). My guess is taxes will go up as will government headcount and the tax increases will be used to fund that. For example I don’t see the passenger locator forms going away as it increases gov control and of course head count to administer it. And the cops / gov get to follow / control the general population for no other reason than they can and like it.

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This may be interesting, with half a House of new enterants and some old favourites will Cannan favour the newbies and their modernising ways or stick to the old favourites???

Even Crookall, once rejected and now forgiven,  do'es that make him a 'shoe in' ? or does he he need a term to prove hissself to the voters?

I think we may find that he does not!!!

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11 hours ago, 747-400 said:

Agree with what you say and I thought the Monday evening husting should have been enough for CT. Changes have been made this time, driven by CT himself I think. 

As much as I like CT and have chatted to him on many occasions, he is irritating me with this positively child like behaviour. He sounds like he isn’t getting his own way, so stamps his feet in fit of pique.

Perhaps, for him, if he would be appointed Chair of OFT. This will do two things, make him buck up his ideas and pull his fingers out and deal with the issues (Manx Gas). Will hopefully give him a role to redeem himself, if he screws up then like Quirkio and Perkins before, it will be Cherio, Cherio, Cherio, Cherio, Cheeerio.

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14 minutes ago, Kopek said:

This may be interesting, with half a House of new enterants and some old favourites will Cannan favour the newbies and their modernising ways or stick to the old favourites???

Even Crookall, once rejected and now forgiven,  do'es that make him a 'shoe in' ? or does he he need a term to prove hissself to the voters?

I think we may find that he does not!!!

Can Crookall do any worse of a bad job? Based on the benchmark of the last lot, he can only improve,

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It's not a question of his past experience but rather that that experience should elevate him into the role a as Minister.

It is a fresh House, it should be for that House to decide the progress for the future?

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11 hours ago, SleepyJoe said:

No one has any idea now what the the polices and programmes of the new government are to be - an utterly absurd situation at the fag end of a general election process

Surely the MHKs do as presumably they based their vote for the CM, in part, on what the two candidates set out as being their priorities in terms of polices and the programme of Government.

My point was it is all very well MHKs saying they consulted with constituents as to whom to vote for in terms of CM but unless those MHKs are telling their constituents at the same the proposals the candidates are putting forward then our views as constituents are pretty meaningless as we have no idea what the candidates are proposing

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7 hours ago, 2112 said:

As much as I like CT and have chatted to him on many occasions, he is irritating me with this positively child like behaviour. He sounds like he isn’t getting his own way, so stamps his feet in fit of pique.

Perhaps, for him, if he would be appointed Chair of OFT. This will do two things, make him buck up his ideas and pull his fingers out and deal with the issues (Manx Gas). Will hopefully give him a role to redeem himself, if he screws up then like Quirkio and Perkins before, it will be Cherio, Cherio, Cherio, Cherio, Cheeerio.

Possibly having also to sit on the rear bench in HoK Chamber and not getting enough support to stand for CM (if that was his intention).

Hope he snaps out of his sulk as we need all politicians contributing at this time and no sitting on their backsides for 5 years ”holding the Government to account”. It does not need to be one or the other.

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5 minutes ago, 747-400 said:

Possibly having also to sit on the rear bench in HoK Chamber and not getting enough support to stand for CM (if that was his intention).

It was obvious that virtually nobody but Cannan was going to get elected months and months ago. The signs were very clear. 

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1 hour ago, Lost Login said:

.......our views as constituents are pretty meaningless as we have no idea what the Chief Secretary is proposing

Fixed.....

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3 hours ago, 747-400 said:

Possibly having also to sit on the rear bench in HoK Chamber and not getting enough support to stand for CM (if that was his intention).

Hope he snaps out of his sulk as we need all politicians contributing at this time and no sitting on their backsides for 5 years ”holding the Government to account”. It does not need to be one or the other.

Politicians are there to hold government to account - it was the very role of the House of Keys when the Governor ruled the roost

This one Keys, one Government idea is for the birds

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49 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

Politicians are there to hold government account - it was the very role of the House of Keys when the Governor ruled the roost
 

What did they do the rest of the week?

Probably had other jobs.

Now it is paid to be full time. I expect my representatives to be more constructive. Any fool can hold the Government to account. 

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11 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

Let's see any fool do it then

More effective to be ”in” like a Deparmental member I would say, than sitting outside. 

Then you may see the problems first hand and have a better chance of improving things. 

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