Jump to content

Manx Records / Records by Manx Artists


Declan
 Share

Recommended Posts

I'm researching Manx Records for a couple of things I'm working on and I wanted to pick the brains of the forum. I've been on iMuseum, looked at Discogs and 45cat and other sites, also I have picked up a few Manx records over the years and then from the late 80's I've been around as thing were released. But there's obvious gaps which I think some of you have experience of. Here's where I am at the moment -

Pre-war - I know Sophia Morrison had a record-recorder but this was mostly used for taping Manx speakers and when the Gills, Clague etc collected folk songs they preferred to transcribe the music and lyrics so as to avoid individual idiosyncrasies of the singers (!) these were tidied up for drawing room use and became the Manx National Song Book. There was lots of folk-song collect world wide at the time, did any of these collectors visit the island and record anything that was subsequently released? iMuseum has mention of recordings of Manx music being played to gatherings of Manx Societies in Liverpool, Manchester etc - were these reel to reel or shellac?

There's a few music hall songs and George Formby songs from this time that mention the Island particularly tourist market aimed. Did the local performers of the day ever record souvenirs for the visitors they play for?

Post war - most of the releases are institutions like Choirs mostly singing Ellan Vannin / Manx Fisherman's Hymn etc. Or recordings of TT races.

Did the Skiffle, Rock 'n' Roll, Beat groups of this era release anything? Was there a barrier like cost, access to studios / record companies? Or were they just having fun playing every night in the season so a release wasn't an aspiration.

70's -Mid 80's -  the first rock record  I know of is Jygsaw's excellent lp from 1971 (although it sounds more like an lp from 1967). After this we see the Kelly Recording company and a recording studio in Duke Street, looking at the discography and the records I have this drew heavily on the folk revival with the Mannin Folk. I've ordered Terry Clough's book so should get to the bottom of that period, but were there other folk/rock bands releasing stuff separately.

There has been a blues rock strain in Manx Music as long as I've been going to gigs, and this must have originated in this period and presumably home studio tape recorders made it easier to demo tracks to send out. Did any make records?

Older people fondly remember Black Mass and Jo Public, these are before my time but other than this https://www.discogs.com/release/9653377-Jo-Jo-Namoza-Kissing-The-Babies-Elevator from Frank Magee's post-Island band I don't know of any.

Mid 80's to 2000 - there seems to have been a generational shift here. Younger musicians had access to better recording equipment and Indie label / shop network seems to have provided more opportunity. So we see the Black Riders LP, 12" from Suicide Highlife and Colon, Ways of Stephen 7". Later there's local labels like Cripperty Records releasing records.

I'm less clear on what the Manx Folk scene was doing at that time. Obviously Christine Callister was an International artist at that point but what else was happening. Did the Art's Council or Culture Vannin's predecessor finance anything like they have in the CD era?

I know about Source of Gravity records but did the local dance scene put out anything during this period?

2000's and 2010's - lots of music release in this era. Art's council funding the folkies. In rock the previous generation supported youngsters to make music through recording studios like DAM, Ballagroove, and labels like Small Victorian Child and Small Bear and there was a crop of eager younger musicians. But much of this was on CD (usually CDRs) and latterly digital and streaming releases. A few vinyl releases as the vinyl revival took hold - the Tea lp, Veto, and Penelope Isles. Davy Knowles probably released stuff too. Is there more?

2020's - There's probably been more vinyl records this year than any time since the 70's - Mad Daddy, the Manx Punx comp, invisible-isvisible, Mark E Moon, Baad Acid and in November the new Penelope Isles record. Have I forgotten any?

If you can answer any of the questions above that would be great, but don't let that constrain you. My focus is local releases and releases by local acts so International acts like the Bee Gees and Rick Wakeman would be out of scope for my purposes as would big name acts who played the Villa in the 60's but MF is at it's best when it is off topic so don't let me stop your recollections taking you in those directions.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, Dave sang with GASP, they did record stuff but it was a live band, with very few original songs in the set. Sawbones continue to record with a second album at the final mix stage.

A video of the band's last ever gig. Peelstock 2010.

Plenty of talent on this Island past and present, in the old days there were few modern recording facilities, Cloughie had a couple, Ken Mitchell put one together as did a couple of others but techniques and dated equipment hindered progress. Home recording was subject to the trials and tribulations of the TEAC 'Portastudio'. Nowadays, of course it's a totally different ball game, with modern technology anything is possible. My sons mate (22) for instance, has all the software, the desk and monitors set up in his bedroom. Plays a bit of everything not very well but he played me a couple of his finished recordings a while back I was blown away. The quality, the software, all of it. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 months later...

Hi Declan, 

Hope you are well - good luck with the research! The Chasms released cds, and I understand the Alchemical Postcards album is due a vinyl reissue this year. The artwork features old Manx postcards given the cut and paste treatment.

https://thechasms.bandcamp.com/

Is your focus on physical product only? Digital release suits me. Low cost, no boxes of unsold cds stuffed under the stairs, just less fuss all told. But then I'm no collector.

https://beaconfell.bandcamp.com/

Oh, and here's a nice old tune for you....

https://archive.org/details/78_we-must-have-a-song-about-the-isle-of-man_mr-harry-marlow-david-murphy_gbia0301325b/WE+MUST+HAVE+A+SONG+ABOUT+THE+ISLE+OF+M+-+Mr.+HARRY+MARLOW.flac

 

 

 

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
On 1/22/2022 at 1:06 PM, beaconfell said:

Hi Declan, 

Hope you are well - good luck with the research! The Chasms released cds, and I understand the Alchemical Postcards album is due a vinyl reissue this year. The artwork features old Manx postcards given the cut and paste treatment.

https://thechasms.bandcamp.com/

Is your focus on physical product only? Digital release suits me. Low cost, no boxes of unsold cds stuffed under the stairs, just less fuss all told. But then I'm no collector.

https://beaconfell.bandcamp.com/

 

 

 

 

Cheers. Looking forward to having something physical from the Chasms. Speaking of whom I bought https://isvisible-isinvisible.bandcamp.com/album/ghosts-of-mann 's tape earlier this year. Spooky. 

Anyone, in the wake of the Neil Young thing thinking of using Bandcamp to support local and smaller artists, might like to do so today. It's Bandcamp Friday  https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/bandcamp-fridays-update ... where Bandcamp waive their share of the revenue to support the bands and independent labels. 

Some options -

https://rotatorvinyl.bandcamp.com/album/various-artists-manx-punx-locked-in-the-dressing-room

https://maddaddy.bandcamp.com/album/mad-daddy

https://burningwitchesrecords.bandcamp.com/album/moon-white-water

https://biskeebrisht.bandcamp.com/

https://markemoon1.bandcamp.com/album/old-blood

https://waysofstephen.bandcamp.com/album/52-lo-fi-psychedelic-country-folk-rock-pop-greats (Old school but possibly the best Manx Band ever)

Here's a couple of my song / poems - https://declaniom.bandcamp.com/ (but don't pay for it.)

(Tip if you're buying a physical item from Bandcamp put your address as Isle of Man, United Kingdom otherwise it defaults to International Postage).

 

Incidentally, the vinyl of Penelope Isles latest lp should be in Sound Records today imminently. And Yard Act who have the current Number 2 album in the country has a Manx guitarist - Sam Shipstone. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Declan
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Tenuously Manx question ...

Anyone know anything about this?

The record label is called "Offshore Records" The record label is called "Offshore Records" based in Port Erin (director S. Lowe - wasn't there a Smashy and Nicey style DJ in the olden days called Stu Lowe?) ,, the Fan Club Address on the back is P O Box 15, Douglas.

The biog on Discogs reads -

Pop group made up of 3 sisters / Portugeuse Countesses: Christian De Almeida, Joanna De Almeida  & Wendy De Almeida

Google says that Wendy Baines middle name is De Almeida.

Edited by Declan
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 months later...

Declan,  The  group with Trevor Baines wife in it was I think  called Brazil ( could be wrong) they had a single called slip away or slipping away had plenty of airplay on Manx radio and a bit on radio 2 at the time, a really good song but can never find it when I’ve looked for it. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...