Non-Believer Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 It's all a question of mindset. Mine is, "Give the bastards nothing. Or as little as humanly possible." Bastards being MUA, MG or anything to do with IoMG. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: It's all a question of mindset. Mine is, "Give the bastards nothing. Or as little as humanly possible." Bastards being MUA, MG or anything to do with IoMG. Yesterday on radio 4 it stated that in the period May/August 2.4 million U.K. customers used far less power than usual for the time of year. It was thought that most of them were ‘disadvantaged’ financially. While there are people who can, relatively easily, budget for huge amounts of power and it still not affect their overall cash flow, then ‘we have no problem’. As ever, it’s the ones at the bottom who will suffer the most. They are also the ones least likely to take to the streets. Edited August 6 by Roxanne Typo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Don't you just love the way you try not to use gas and standing charge still creeps up to get you. Even if you turned off the main tap you still have to pay. I know electric is still expensive but at least they do not charge you for it lying in wait in the cable, just incase you decide to boil the kettle. ✌ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 41 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Yesterday on radio 4 it stated that in the period May/August 2.4 million U.K. customers used far less power than usual for the time of year. It was thought that most of them were ‘disadvantaged’ financially. While there are people who can, relatively easily, budget for huge amounts of power and it still not affect their income then ‘we have no problem’. As ever, it’s the ones at the bottom who will suffer the most. They are also the ones least likely to take to the streets. It's got to the stage where frankly, I would rather sit in the dark and shiver than give another penny to MG/Ancala and our own in-house, self-serving wasters to squander on power station, ferry terminal, Promenade and whatever else corruption and incompetence. Bell, Proffitt, the MEA Board, Longworth, Black, Robinson, Baker, Gawne, Harmer, the lot of them, including the dicks from the OFT who came up with the previous Gas Regulatory Agreement. If there's a shortfall anywhere, take it out of their pension entitlements and benefits. If anybody thinks that the first ethos of Manx public service is to serve the public, they've got it sadly wrong. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Anyone else noticed that MG computerised billing system has changed? I had a bill late May. I pay a fixed amount by DD monthly. There was a balance due and I paid, and I also upped my DD. my bill at end July didn’t record any payments received, the balance carried forward from May and the opening balance for July were different. The figures of gas consumed, plus payments my bank shows as paid, don’t tie in. I spoke to someone over the phone. They said the billing would be sorted by September. I then e-mailed asking for a break down of all gas and Standing charge and VAT, less DD discount, since January, and all payments received since January. 10 days ago. No response. Over the phone MG accepted they’d got a new programme and it was having teething problems. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 I noted last week that their over-the-phone automated bill payment system wouldn't accept the new invoice number format. Had to pay at the Post Office instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, Dirty Buggane said: Don't you just love the way you try not to use gas and standing charge still creeps up to get you. Even if you turned off the main tap you still have to pay. I know electric is still expensive but at least they do not charge you for it lying in wait in the cable, just incase you decide to boil the kettle. ✌ The way to avoid the standing charge is to have it disconnected. If the service is available you pay a standing charge. I am not aware of any utility anywhere in the world where it's any different are you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: It's got to the stage where frankly, I would rather sit in the dark and shiver than give another penny to MG/Ancala and our own in-house, self-serving wasters to squander on power station, ferry terminal, Promenade and whatever else corruption and incompetence. Bell, Proffitt, the MEA Board, Longworth, Black, Robinson, Baker, Gawne, Harmer, the lot of them, including the dicks from the OFT who came up with the previous Gas Regulatory Agreement. If there's a shortfall anywhere, take it out of their pension entitlements and benefits. If anybody thinks that the first ethos of Manx public service is to serve the public, they've got it sadly wrong. I was told the other day that at the moment both gas and electricity here is currently cheaper than in the UK. I haven't been able to validate it but the friend who told me is not normally wrong. PS. He not a lawyer Stop Press. He is talking bullshit. In Yorkshire you can get £7.50 per KWh According to MG website it's £15 per kwh Edited August 6 by Happier diner Bull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 4 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I was told the other day that at the moment both gas and electricity here is currently cheaper than in the UK. I haven't been able to validate it but the friend who told me is not normally wrong. PS. He not a lawyer BS Try this site for the UK (may have gone up a tad) and Manx Gas (before latest 43% hike). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 4 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I was told the other day that at the moment both gas and electricity here is currently cheaper than in the UK. I haven't been able to validate it but the friend who told me is not normally wrong. PS. He not a lawyer Tell Alex Allinson. I'm sure he'll be more than willing to incorporate that into his next good news release. Remind him to tell us why we're paying our "Toilet Tax" Sewage Charge too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 minute ago, GD4ELI said: BS Try this site for the UK (may have gone up a tad) and Manx Gas (before latest 43% hike). See my latest edit. Yes bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 7 minutes ago, Happier diner said: See my latest edit. Yes bullshit. Factor in the 43% and as was mentioned on Facebook Manx Gas is ~3 x the price of UK Gas. I would expect that electricity will rise to ~28 to 32p / kWh as that's the lowest variable rate in the UK. I'm interested because a couple of friends on the rock are going to struggle badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 50 minutes ago, Happier diner said: The way to avoid the standing charge is to have it disconnected. If the service is available you pay a standing charge. I am not aware of any utility anywhere in the world where it's any different are you? Tell me again how much the electricity standing charge is, must of missed it on my last bill. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 33 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: Factor in the 43% and as was mentioned on Facebook Manx Gas is ~3 x the price of UK Gas. And yet our Gas comes from an interconnector on the UK/Ireland pipeline. It's not like we have our own, particularly rare and expensive type of Gas. In fact, the only thing that makes it that expensive is the involvement and interaction of the MUA and MG. So perhaps people need to be seeing some figures from both MG and IoMG explaining the huge disparity? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 9 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: Tell me again how much the electricity standing charge is, must of missed it on my last bill. 🤔 Theres def a electrity standing charge . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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