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1 hour ago, Bandits said:

It’s self explanatory. They haven’t had to subsidize the big consumers to the tune of £18M like the MUA has as they seem to have a very effective hedging strategy to keep electricity costs down. 

With France, who have a nationally run power generator and a direct link to Jersey.

We don’t, so any comparison is pointless

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14 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

With France, who have a nationally run power generator and a direct link to Jersey.

We don’t, so any comparison is pointless

It’s not pointless at all. We are told an inter connector to the UK is what we should be doing in future. Jersey did it about 20 years ago and it seems to be working very well. So mentioning that isn’t pointless at all. 

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21 minutes ago, Bandits said:

It’s not pointless at all. We are told an inter connector to the UK is what we should be doing in future. Jersey did it about 20 years ago and it seems to be working very well. So mentioning that isn’t pointless at all. 

We already have an interconnector. It's not the best and it must be getting near to the end of its life, but I believe we can already run fine without Pulrose.

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27 minutes ago, Bandits said:

It’s not pointless at all. We are told an inter connector to the UK is what we should be doing in future. Jersey did it about 20 years ago and it seems to be working very well. So mentioning that isn’t pointless at all. 

The prices in the UK are climbing like here.  In France they aren’t 

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3 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Yes. And like the other scripts, it's a fact,  unlike your blathering.

So which part is blathering Mr DOI? Jersey has been running off an inter connector with France for a good period of time now. It’s clearly been a good way of 1. Ensuring low electricity costs for its consumers and 2. Obtaining cleaner energy via a high proportion of nuclear power. We have done neither but have proposed to move to a situation where the interconnector becomes the substantial source of greener power in the IOM. In contrast our MUA subsidized its main users by £18M in the last year or so and that’s before the real spikes in natural gas occurred. 

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2 minutes ago, Bandits said:

So which part is blathering Mr DOI? Jersey has been running off an inter connector with France for a good period of time now. It’s clearly been a good way of 1. Ensuring low electricity costs for its consumers and 2. Obtaining cleaner energy via a high proportion of nuclear power. We have done neither but have proposed to move to a situation where the interconnector becomes the substantial source of greener power in the IOM. In contrast our MUA subsidized its main users by £18M in the last year or so and that’s before the real spikes in natural gas occurred. 

You started the insults....as usual.

Yes, we choose not to buy from the UK. We normally sell a fair bit but that's probably dead in the water now. 

I think ultimately you will be correct and we will have more interconnectors and just import all the time. This is what is recommended by the Arup report for government. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://consult.gov.im/cabinet-office/climate-change-plan-2022-2027/supporting_documents/Future%20Energy%20Scenarios%20Supporting%20Document.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjqu4P2_c35AhWvi_0HHYMwDUoQFnoECAQQBg&usg=AOvVaw2P3VEqeMvood37Z415lA_v

 

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1 minute ago, Happier diner said:

You started the insults....as usual.

Yes, we choose not to buy from the UK. We normally sell a fair bit but that's probably dead in the water now. 

I think ultimately you will be correct and we will have more interconnectors and just import all the time. This is what is recommended by the Arup report for government. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://consult.gov.im/cabinet-office/climate-change-plan-2022-2027/supporting_documents/Future%20Energy%20Scenarios%20Supporting%20Document.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjqu4P2_c35AhWvi_0HHYMwDUoQFnoECAQQBg&usg=AOvVaw2P3VEqeMvood37Z415lA_v

 

There are no insults above Mr DOI. You accused me of blathering and then two posts later you basically agreed with me. I’ve read the Arup report several times which is why I posted the link to the article on Jersey. An interconnector seems to be the best way to manage things rather than the MUA giving away £18M to its customers from its profits to keep costs down. 

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1 hour ago, Bandits said:

 2. Obtaining cleaner energy via a high proportion of nuclear power. 

Disappointingly we can literally see a nuclear power station from here.  However Daffers and the rest of her green yoghurt weavers have been brain washed into believing that nuclear is bad (we're nowhere near a geologically active area or Russians) and to put a hydroelectric station at Fairy Bridge. 

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1 hour ago, The Phantom said:

Disappointingly we can literally see a nuclear power station from here.  However Daffers and the rest of her green yoghurt weavers have been brain washed into believing that nuclear is bad (we're nowhere near a geologically active area or Russians) and to put a hydroelectric station at Fairy Bridge. 

The problem with nuclear isn't so much problems with radioactivity or even the lack of long-term storage (though even the French haven't sorted this).  It's simply that it's quite expensive anyway and the construction of new stations seems to take forever and cost a bomb.  Construction started on Hinkley Point C in 2008 and it looks like it now won't be finished till 2028.  And cost £25 billion.

Even the French (who are 70% much more than any other country) are moving to wind and solar (they already have a lot of hydro).

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4 hours ago, The Phantom said:

Disappointingly we can literally see a nuclear power station from here.  However Daffers and the rest of her green yoghurt weavers have been brain washed into believing that nuclear is bad (we're nowhere near a geologically active area or Russians) and to put a hydroelectric station at Fairy Bridge. 


When did you interview Mrs Caine on the subject of nuclear energy?

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