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Manx Gas MEGA Price Rise


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7 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said:

Yes, I know that, but never get an answer to what public housing tenants are actually paying, compared to private rate payers. I suspect the rateable value is a lot less than comparable private properties. It may be included in the rent but how much of that is rates on the property ? Anybody know ?

 

In the rent book, from when I used to live in one, the rent and rates were clearly separated, but you paid them both in one payment each week. So why not swallow your disgust and go and speak to someone who lives in social housing and ask them. Maybe you might find that they aren't so different.

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2 minutes ago, manxfisherman said:

In the rent book, from when I used to live in one, the rent and rates were clearly separated, but you paid them both in one payment each week. So why not swallow your disgust and go and speak to someone who lives in social housing and ask them. Maybe you might find that they aren't so different.

Do you think they would let him have a peek at their new kitchen?:ph34r:

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7 hours ago, finlo said:

Do you think they would let him have a peek at their new kitchen?:ph34r:

well, for a start, all the white goods etc will be purchased by the tenant. My rent is about £700/month. Not as much as in the private renting sector, but then should the local authorities be trying to make a massive profit on us? Price us out, where are those who work in social care, empty your bins, serve you in the shops etc going to come from? The excessive cost of housing that stops medical and teaching staff etc moving here is a problem with an unregulated housing market where houses are attractive investments, especially in times of low interest rates, and not as homes. Without the profit on a house sale to sub my kids the deposit on a house, how are they going to get on the ladder?

The high cost of gas is not because the pondy residents decided to privatise infrastructure, meaning that the impetus was about high returns for shareholders, fuck-off bonus's for the bosses and no consideration to the long or medium term needs of the country. The best we can give our mates is a spliff, not an industry. And we shake out heads at Putin carving up state industry and handing it out to mates, the west wrote the text book on that one.

edit - what is it with people thinking all council houses get an annual kitchen refurb? Our house is 15 years old and hasn't had one, neither do we think we are entitled to one.

 

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8 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said:

You can bet too that most private housing rate payers will be clobbered again next year and there'll be no cost of living rebate. Mine was nearly £1600 this year for a single occupancy apartment. The high rate payers on the IOM continue to subsidise the low rate payers and those in public housing. 

Yes my rates were about the same too this year. I'm single and would have hoped for a single reduction, l have heard that it has been discussed but haven't heard any update on this, is anyone else aware of whether this is being implemented?

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15 hours ago, manxfisherman said:

Man, they replaced our kitchen. Apparently it was a £10k job. What a fucking disgrace.

yeah, there are valid questions to be asked about some of these contracts handed out,and what is delivered.

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John Wannenburgh seems to have upset some of the suits at Manx Gas by saying he would be happy to see them collapse.

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/i-wouldnt-mind-if-manx-gas-collapses-says-oft-chair/

It's refreshing to hear an MHK talking in such clear terms. 

Beside some very short term disruption there would be no negative to Manx Gas collapsing. 

What do they even do except sell Gas to the GMP and skim their 5% on top of it? 

Their function could easily be absorbed by MUA and the 'profit' reinvested or used to bring prices down. MUA would also benefit from being able to negotiate prices better throght negotiating for a bigger quantity.

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59 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

 

Their function could easily be absorbed by MUA and the 'profit' reinvested or used to bring prices down. MUA would also benefit from being able to negotiate prices better throght negotiating for a bigger quantity.

as MUA supply manx gas now i'm not sure where your bigger quantity comes from ?  unless you meant the extra 15k residents in high earning jobs we keep hearing about.

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2 minutes ago, WTF said:

as MUA supply manx gas now i'm not sure where your bigger quantity comes from ?  unless you meant the extra 15k residents in high earning jobs we keep hearing about.

MUA hedge their purchases. They separately buy the gas for Manx Gas. 

So lumping them together gives MUA more purchasing power (even if just slightly).

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46 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said:

The only thing that would happen if the MUA got there grubby paws on Manx Gas would be a year on year price hike, As the government would treat it as another cash cow to pay for civil service largesse, Another stick with which to beat the GMP 

And prices are under control with Manx Gas?

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7 minutes ago, hissingsid said:

I feel for Manx Gas users at least with oil, leccy or solid fuel you can control it but to get charged when you are not using is harsh.    I hope it is a mild winter for everyone’s sake.

MUA also levy a standing charge.

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