Shake me up Judy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 It's Paul by the way. Take it from me he certainly has an eye for detail. Stat-Man can knit fog. It's not detail types and committee men/women we need right now. We need people who'll get stuck in and tackle the big issues that we discuss on here every day. People with vision and a deep sense of what needs addressing, changing and fixing. That's not what they've voted in here. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: It's Paul by the way. Take it from me he certainly has an eye for detail. Stat-Man can knit fog. It's not detail types and committee men/women we need right now. We need people who'll get stuck in and tackle the big issues that we discuss on here every day. People with vision and a deep sense of what needs addressing, changing and fixing. That's not what they've voted in here. Are you talking about an MHK or an MLC? How is an MLC supposed to do what you say exactly? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Are you talking about an MHK or an MLC? How is an MLC supposed to do what you say exactly? By what they say and how they vote would be a start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747-400 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Roxanne said: That’s some CV. At first I thought it was an inside job but that woman has skills. What on earth is a ‘sandwich’ year? When you spend a year of your degree working, for example at industry, or studying, for example at an overseas university. Edited November 23, 2021 by 747-400 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I think Peter Karran once took a sandwich year before he went into politics didn't he ? Don't remember what was in them though... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: I think Peter Karran once took a sandwich year before he went into politics didn't he ? Don't remember what was in them though... Dripping, he’s working class 😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: I think Peter Karran once took a sandwich year before he went into politics didn't he ? Don't remember what was in them though... No, not that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: It's not detail types and committee men/women we need right now. We need people who'll get stuck in and tackle the big issues that we discuss on here every day. People with vision and a deep sense of what needs addressing, changing and fixing. That's not what they've voted in here. Rubbish. We've had endless people going on about 'big issues' and 'vision' and 'strategy' for decades now - and it's not exactly working is it? Is there anyone who looks at the Isle of Man Government and says "What we really need is more bullshit rhetoric"? When you have the attitude that details are for little people then you get on-going disasters like the Prom and the Airport. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I have no details wrong he stood for Middle on two occasions and on the second even Howard beat him which says a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, hissingsid said: I have no details wrong he stood for Middle on two occasions and on the second even Howard beat him which says a lot. You got his name wrong. He’s Paul, not Phil. That’s a pretty big detail! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Clumsy fingers 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 MLCs appointed by MHKs are surely more likely to vote for the positions of those who put them into LegCo? LegCo members should be elected by those who fund them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 13 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Rubbish. We've had endless people going on about 'big issues' and 'vision' and 'strategy' for decades now - and it's not exactly working is it? Is there anyone who looks at the Isle of Man Government and says "What we really need is more bullshit rhetoric"? When you have the attitude that details are for little people then you get on-going disasters like the Prom and the Airport. You say 'rubbish' then go on to make my point for me. It's exactly the disasters like the Prom and Dreamboat Annie's Airport that I want addressing, and all the other real issues that we highlight on here every day. I want people who get that, who have a deep understanding of the Island's politics, what needs fixing, are prepared to say so, and vote accordingly. I thought that was what I'd posted... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: You say 'rubbish' then go on to make my point for me. It's exactly the disasters like the Prom and Dreamboat Annie's Airport that I want addressing, and all the other real issues that we highlight on here every day. I want people who get that, who have a deep understanding of the Island's politics, what needs fixing, are prepared to say so, and vote accordingly. I thought that was what I'd posted... But a lot of those people need to be "detail types", so they can look at the details of civil service proposals and be able to assess whether they will work and whether what is requested is even necessary. At the moment we have a culture where politicians feel obliged to accept whatever they are told. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Anyway we now got the full voting from yesterday's election: Vote Results Mr Craine 16 Mrs Kelsey 13 Mr Shimmins 11 Mrs Bentham 11 Mr Keenan 9 Mr Brown 5 Ms Coll 3 Number of spoilt papers 0 Chris Thomas was absent (with permission) from the session - which shows the strength of Craine's support as he was his proposer and presumably would have voted for him. As ever voting seems to be more personal than political (even the two MLP MHKs didn't always vote the same way). Of course MHKs could vote for as many (or few as they liked) and most actually voted for more than two candidates, even though there were only two places (Maltby voted for five). Hooper voted for four (as did four others) none of whom were successful. Brown got the votes of the four Northern MHKs plus Ashford and no one else; Coll didn't even get the votes of her two supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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