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24 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Don't be ridiculous.  It's not time-limited, anyone elected would be able to stand again in 2022 and all those recently elected to fill a casual vacancy (Wild, Poole-Wilson, Sharpe) did exactly that and got in again.  There were enough people who stood for the Douglas South by-election with an even shorter period in office as well.

Well, I wouldn’t give my job up for a year in the hope I might get back in at the start of 2022 and I am generally regarded as a bit of a risk taker.

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11 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

He wouldn’t dare, and I doubt anyone would want to put their name to proposing or seconding him.

To be fair to him, Josem said on the previous thread about this: "I think it would be indecent for any person who was unsuccessful in September's general election to put themselves forward as candidates for the casual vacancies for the Legislative Council."

(Also a reminder that you need four MHKs to back you for nomination, not two)

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There's a lot of talk about 'failed MHKs' and 'the old boys club' in selecting members for LegCo.

My view is that for what purports to be a 'scrutiny of government legislation' role, a former MHK is probably best equipped for the job. The option is that MHKs vote for someone with little or no experience of the arcane world of Tynwald processes, protocols and procedures and has zero public mandate. At least someone who even only stood as MHK has subjected themselves to public scrutiny, whereas some nominations in the past have appeared to be more about ticking boxes than choosing the best person.

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15 minutes ago, Roxanne said:

Yes, but we’re not talking about him, we’re talking about Ramseyboi. Again. 

Of ffs, no we are not.

Someone asked why there were less nominations than the last time and I gave a possible explanation and pointed out that personally I wouldn’t risk it and maybe others have the same thoughts.

 

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1 minute ago, Ramseyboi said:

Yes he is.  What’s that got to do with anything unless you are trying to reinforce the point I am making?

But he hasn't given up a job (outside of being an MHK and he retired from IOM Bank before he did that job). You make it sound like everyone has to conform to your norms. And that ain't the case, old fruit.

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10 minutes ago, Stu Peters said:

There's a lot of talk about 'failed MHKs' and 'the old boys club' in selecting members for LegCo.

My view is that for what purports to be a 'scrutiny of government legislation' role, a former MHK is probably best equipped for the job. The option is that MHKs vote for someone with little or no experience of the arcane world of Tynwald processes, protocols and procedures and has zero public mandate. At least someone who even only stood as MHK has subjected themselves to public scrutiny, whereas some nominations in the past have appeared to be more about ticking boxes than choosing the best person.

Gosh.... that's some forward planning Stu! 😁

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13 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

But he hasn't given up a job (outside of being an MHK and he retired from IOM Bank before he did that job). You make it sound like everyone has to conform to your norms. And that ain't the case, old fruit.

Erm? It was about why there is only one nomination and I said it’s because the pool of people who would want or be able to do it is very small.

Bills circumstances which mean he can stand are nothing to do with that point.

Did you actually read the thread old fruit?

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26 minutes ago, Declan said:

I would worry about Quayle seeking a LEGCO post so soon after standing down as CM. It would look very much like dodging the electorate, then wanting to scrutinise his successor. 

And apart from that, he’s been grounded.

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