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On 11/2/2021 at 4:20 PM, Andy Onchan said:

I'm in Scotland and my company pays corporate, council and every other fucking tax going so I think I have a right to comment. Her and her husband are only in it for themselves and only have one thing to offer; they're a one trick pony. She's a walking disaster and a liability. She has forced this once great country to it's knees all in the name of independence, at all and any cost. She's no clue.

So stick that up yer kilt! 😂

I don’t have a kilt. And if you live in the county you pay the tax. And you have a vote if you live there , on independence. And there will be one soon. It’s a bit unfair to accuse Sturgeon of being in it for herself , she probably one of the few politicians in the UK who isn’t. She may be wrong depending on your view but she has conviction and knows what she wants for Scotland.

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1 minute ago, hissingsid said:

Will I was not questioning the foray to the Clyde just why did she need five civil servants as an entourage.

It does seem a lot, but they may be there in their own right - contributing in some specialised way to workshops, seminars and so on.  So they would have been there even without any politicians being present. 

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1 hour ago, Anyone said:

They? Who are they? Independence is inevitable really so we’ll all have to get used to it. Not just ‘they’ or ‘us’. After all , we’re all in it together and that. But if you don’t live there it should not matter.

The SNP. They aren't me. I hope they fail as all they are doing is destroying a once great country. Independence won't happen in our lifetime

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3 hours ago, Peter Layman said:

Have they not heard of ZOOM or any of the other forms of communication out there

I won’t name names, but I remember a certain high up so called officiado of E-Commerce brazenly travelling the world at our expense, promoting the IOM (amongst other humanly things) in person rather than communicating internationally via internet media outlets 🤔

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Anyone hear the business man whinging the IOM gov didn't pay for his ticket to COP21  on Manx Radio this morning. Speaks to the mentality of the self-entitled and self-righteousness of the whole affair.

I do 100% agree climate changes. It always has and always will.

To put things in perspective IOM produces 0.84 Mt CO2 Eq or 840,000 tons per annum

The UK with all overseas territories and crown dependencies produces 464.5 Mt or 464,500,000 tons per annum.

0.84/464.5 = 0.18% So the IOM contributes less than 1/5th of 1 percent to UK emmsions

Or put another way Global CO2 is 33Gt or 33,000,000,000 tons per annum

So the UK at 464.5/33,000 = 1.4% of world CO2 and the IOM is 0.84/33,000 = 0.00254% or

254 in 1,000,000.

One year of IOM CO2 emmisions is created by the World in under 14 minutes.

Or to say it anotehr way, it would take the IOM 107 years to produce the same CO2 as one day of World CO2 emmissions.

PS: China 10,000,000,000 t/y CO2 (30.3%)

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, thommo2010 said:

The SNP. They aren't me. I hope they fail as all they are doing is destroying a once great country. Independence won't happen in our lifetime

Scotland has not been a country in the proper sense of the meaning since 1707. Might not happen in yours , it will in mine. The SNP have not destroyed anything. Least not as much as the English Labour and Tory governments of the 70’s and 80’s did. Lots of smaller countries thrive once they escape the constraints of a larger partner whose interests always come first. 

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16 minutes ago, Anyone said:

Scotland has not been a country in the proper sense of the meaning since 1707. Might not happen in yours , it will in mine. The SNP have not destroyed anything. Least not as much as the English Labour and Tory governments of the 70’s and 80’s did. Lots of smaller countries thrive once they escape the constraints of a larger partner whose interests always come first. 

In the unlikely event that independence is granted anytime soon, what would be next for Scotland? Re-entry into the EU? Join the queue and then there's legal arrangements, the paperwork, meetings and deal-breaking, how long would that take? Would it leave Scotland in limbo for a couple of years? How would it affect trade? Where will the resources come from? Has Sturgeon the political longevity to see it through? 

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8 hours ago, quilp said:

In the unlikely event that independence is granted anytime soon, what would be next for Scotland? Re-entry into the EU? Join the queue and then there's legal arrangements, the paperwork, meetings and deal-breaking, how long would that take? Would it leave Scotland in limbo for a couple of years? How would it affect trade? Where will the resources come from? Has Sturgeon the political longevity to see it through? 

Would the EU entertain the idea (apart from sh*t stirring) when you have the likes of Catalonia, Basque and other regions across the rest of Europe looking for their own independce from the larger nation. The  

Presumbaly UK would charge a toll on roads and rail at the border to cover the cost of administering and external border, customs and excise, immigration etc. Not to mention every single business having to handle accounts in euros and pounds sterling if they buy anything across the border.

Remove all scottish MP's from UK parliment or any other UK statutory body on utilities like national grid, NHS...etc.

Also withdraw all British armed forces bases and personell from Scottish lands and waters. Likewise the Coastguard, RNLI, British Olympic team. 

Scotland at 5.4M population is 8% of UK population so wouldn't be missed. And if they got into EU would be 1.2% of the EU population so good luck with getting anyhting they want. But none of that applies when Queen Nicola wants what she wants.

After all, Ireland had several referendums until they voted the right way. Rejected the Nice Treaty in 2001, so ran it again in 2002 and got the right answer. Then rejected the Lisbon treaty 2008 so ran it again in 2009 and got the right answer.  

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This...

How will the Govt square the TT, motorsport heritage and coal-burning trains, for instance, with now being signed up to a legally binding emissions reductions agreement? Even if TT etc. emissions are negligible in the great scheme of things, it will surely send out the wrong signal?

 

 

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Do we think that the Treasury's reluctance to introduce a cut in APD in line with the UK announcement is based on

a) environmental concerns or

b) a cut in all that lovely incoming lolly?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Do we think that the Treasury's reluctance to introduce a cut in APD in line with the UK announcement is based on

a) environmental concerns or

b) a cut in all that lovely incoming lolly?

 

 

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Well they've got more than a year to make a decision if the UK cut isn't coming in till 2023.  Whether it happens at all is another issue, given the constant u-turns of the British government.  The idea is to support domestic aviation and flights and had been trailed for some time, but these have actually been in decline for years and I can't see a tiny cut reversing it.

Josem is wrong incidentally.  APD is based on departure per flight, so someone flying to the Isle of Man from the UK will get the UK cut whatever.

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