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10 hours ago, Peter Layman said:

I'm not Manx but let's stop this nonsense now. Stay away landlords and UK opportunist landlords are by far the worst. They saw an opportunity to rake in the money without putting anything back.

The very worst landlords are local and have been very long term. The UK opportunists you speak of generally bought new builds or properties in better condition as they aren’t here to maintain them but the worst of the worst have lived here for years and hovered up sh*t property on the cheap 20 or 25 years ago. 

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55 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

The very worst landlords are local and have been very long term. The UK opportunists you speak of generally bought new builds or properties in better condition as they aren’t here to maintain them but the worst of the worst have lived here for years and hovered up sh*t property on the cheap 20 or 25 years ago. 

You are entitled to your own view no matter how wrong it is

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Fairly pointless argument?

I think we all know who the 'Rachman' bad landlords are and <i do't think the above mentioned are amongst them?

However, if it were not for the cheap, dross end of the market, where would the low paid, single, DHSS recipients find accommodation?

Sure it shouldn't have to be in inferior flats but until our Gov get to grips with low wages, lack of suitable jobs, then where do these people go?

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Reart ny Bae old folks home on Albert Terr has been deemed not fit for purpose but it's 50 or some rooms which would be better than a damp flat in east douglas.

OK, it would need 24hr wardens/security and conditions for the great unwashed to adhere to but it could be done.

 

Uh Ho, I hear the petitions opposing this starting up!!!

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7 hours ago, Kopek said:

Reart ny Bae old folks home on Albert Terr has been deemed not fit for purpose but it's 50 or some rooms which would be better than a damp flat in east douglas.

OK, it would need 24hr wardens/security and conditions for the great unwashed to adhere to but it could be done.

 

Uh Ho, I hear the petitions opposing this starting up!!!

I have suggested that the old nurses home (to Chris Thomas, Ann Corlett etc)!on Westmorland Road be used in this capacity. Sadly it needs work as the police have played cops n robbers, and the riot squad and drug squads with dogs have all played in there. Not forgetting the fire service. It’s boarded up, along with the old Ballacloan School. Fairfield School is another derelict site, ex Salvation Army could be used. Government is as bad as anyone in not maintaining property. 
 

If converted and run properly it could also be used to house homeless, and perhaps a bail hostel. With a Warden, Concierge and 24/7 security and a close watch on who gained access, it may be a useful addition.

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I kind of agree with you in the sense that many can't afford the upkeep on the property and are just making enough to cover the mortgage. 

With all the homeowners struggling and barely able to afford that second home I think they would be much happier if they were to sell it, collect any equity they have, and relax.

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22 hours ago, 2112 said:

I have suggested that the old nurses home (to Chris Thomas, Ann Corlett etc)!on Westmorland Road be used in this capacity. Sadly it needs work as the police have played cops n robbers, and the riot squad and drug squads with dogs have all played in there. Not forgetting the fire service. It’s boarded up, along with the old Ballacloan School. Fairfield School is another derelict site, ex Salvation Army could be used. Government is as bad as anyone in not maintaining property. 
 

If converted and run properly it could also be used to house homeless, and perhaps a bail hostel. With a Warden, Concierge and 24/7 security and a close watch on who gained access, it may be a useful addition.

The government should buy caines & the garage adjacent to site & demolish the whole site including demesne road school. Then redeveloped as sheltered/council flats for couples/singles 

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31 minutes ago, Banker said:

The government should buy caines & the garage adjacent to site & demolish the whole site including demesne road school. Then redeveloped as sheltered/council flats for couples/singles 

I’m surprised that hasn’t been done yet. Between the nurses home, it’s carpark, the old Jane Crookall and Ballacloan school that’s a huge plot right in the centre of town. 

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40 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

I’m surprised that hasn’t been done yet. Between the nurses home, it’s carpark, the old Jane Crookall and Ballacloan school that’s a huge plot right in the centre of town. 

There is no chance of it happening, at least within the next 5 years. I spoke during the election campaign to Chris Thomas, and Ann Corlett regarding using the old Nurses quarters as a short term housing solution to the homeless issue. Ballacloan School was boarded up due to vandalism issues and is getting derelict as well as unsightly with its overgrown vegetation. 
 

The former Park Road School site is another mess, originally the plans were for mixed housing, LA, FTB and Sheltered Scheme. However, it is believed it is now marked as a new school to relocate Murray’s Road School. Again it won’t happen in this administrations lifetime, so it will carry on being a dumping ground for vehicles prior to auction.

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4 minutes ago, 2112 said:

There is no chance of it happening, at least within the next 5 years. I spoke during the election campaign to Chris Thomas, and Ann Corlett regarding using the old Nurses quarters as a short term housing solution to the homeless issue. Ballacloan School was boarded up due to vandalism issues and is getting derelict as well as unsightly with its overgrown vegetation. 
 

The former Park Road School site is another mess, originally the plans were for mixed housing, LA, FTB and Sheltered Scheme. However, it is believed it is now marked as a new school to relocate Murray’s Road School. Again it won’t happen in this administrations lifetime, so it will carry on being a dumping ground for vehicles prior to auction.

Hopefully the new development corporation will be looking at this site & other similar ones for early action 

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10 hours ago, Banker said:

Hopefully the new development corporation will be looking at this site & other similar ones for early action 

The question is where do you start? The Bus Station was gifted to ‘local developers’ and will never ever get built upon. Like I have pointed out before, contrast this with the former Griddles/KFC site which is well on the way. They obviously have the money without the involvement of Government. Park Road, Demesne Road, Fairfield School sites. Summerland Site! These are in public ownership. Then you have the Albert Terrace Nursing Home site once the residents are moved to the new Glenside. 
 

I can’t see anything happening for at least another 5 years. Despite all the huff puff and bluster, I don’t think there is any money. If any interest is shown, you can also be assured that there will be intense interference, especially if there are proposing new homes. 
 

There are also sites in private ownership - Middlemarch, Villiers Square etc. 

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19 minutes ago, 2112 said:

The question is where do you start? The Bus Station was gifted to ‘local developers’ and will never ever get built upon. Like I have pointed out before, contrast this with the former Griddles/KFC site which is well on the way. They obviously have the money without the involvement of Government. Park Road, Demesne Road, Fairfield School sites. Summerland Site! These are in public ownership. Then you have the Albert Terrace Nursing Home site once the residents are moved to the new Glenside. 
 

I can’t see anything happening for at least another 5 years. Despite all the huff puff and bluster, I don’t think there is any money. If any interest is shown, you can also be assured that there will be intense interference, especially if there are proposing new homes. 
 

There are also sites in private ownership - Middlemarch, Villiers Square etc. 

there’s also plenty of cash, we’ve just raised £400m bond , just call it an eco development with heat pumps, solar etc 😀

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3 minutes ago, Banker said:

there’s also plenty of cash, we’ve just raised £400m bond , just call it an eco development with heat pumps, solar etc 😀

Out of that, MUA get some of the debt payed off, the new Manxman being built. I can imagine the quotes from building firms/developers to build on all these sites, with all the fancy eco toys. Astronomical, eye watering  - a Manx premium as IOMG have money to waste will be incorporated into the figures. 

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From memory, there's only 10% of that new bond available for "green" things - the rest is for servicing other ongoing liabilities?

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