Andy Onchan Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, the stinking enigma said: I'd feel better if anyone in charge of our health service should also have to use our health service +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: But DHSC is not a business. Same principles should apply. A well managed organisation is a well managed organisation Maybe that is where we are going wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx17 Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Who’s betting they got private health care in their contract? as they definitely won’t want to wait for Nobles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Manx17 said: Who’s betting they got private health care in their contract? as they definitely won’t want to wait for Nobles. Even if they didn’t they would jump the queue anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx17 Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, 2112 said: Even if they didn’t they would jump the queue anyway. That wouldn’t surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Should be resident here . Its total nonsense that a person can be appointed in such a position and operate from the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Numbnuts said: Should be resident here . Its total nonsense that a person can be appointed in such a position and operate from the UK. Well the previous IOMG administration allowed it and quite frankly Ashford indulged them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, 2112 said: Well the previous IOMG administration allowed it and quite frankly Ashford indulged them. Yes I know and didn't agree with that stance either. Ashford indulged lots of things though on his google inspired watch . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: Managing the trenches from Whitehall worked so well in WW1 didn’t it? Yes, I was immediately reminded of the General Melchett principle of leadership... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, P.K. said: Leading from the rear never works. It has, occasionally, worked for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, 2112 said: Well the previous IOMG administration allowed it and quite frankly Ashford indulged them. 26 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Should be resident here . Its total nonsense that a person can be appointed in such a position and operate from the UK. The whole ethos today is community based treatment therefore those who aspire to manage that process need to live and understand the community they wish to treat. To do so they must live within that community in order to understand what is required. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 We've got a major organisational restructure; a health service crisis, key staff shortages, and we're still in the middle of a world pandemic with local infections rising and a dangerous new variant just announced. But the new head of the DHSC isn't even here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx17 Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: We've got a major organisational restructure; a health service crisis, key staff shortages, and we're still in the middle of a world pandemic with local infections rising and a dangerous new variant just announced. But the new head of the DHSC isn't even here. The new variant has been found in Belgium today. So it won’t be long before it’s here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 For context this actually appeared as a reply in what is the replacement for the old system of Written Questions. Tynwald Members can now ask these any time and they appear on here, together with the answers when those are supplied. Watterson is a big user of the system because it means he can ask questions when the next sitting is a Keys one where he couldn't do so as Speaker (or a Tynwald where he might have to take over), though I've noticed some Ministers are using it to question publicly what happens in other Departments - something that didn't happen before. Anyway in full it is: When he expects to advertise for a full time Chief Executive Officer for the Department of Health and Social Care; whether the role will be regraded in light of the creation of Manx Care; and whether the next incumbent will be expected to live on Island? The Minister for Health and Social Care (Mr Hooper): The process to advertise for a permanent full time Chief Executive Officer is underway and the draft Job Description is going through the relevant OHR processes prior to advertisement, which includes establishing the appropriate grade for the post. The department are hoping that this will be completed within the coming weeks ready for advertisement prior to Christmas/early in the New Year. The department will recruit the best candidate for the role, i.e. one who meets the required criteria in terms of competencies and character, in order to take DHSC forward successfully. In doing so, it would be inappropriate to insist that the next incumbent should live on Island in cognisance of the contemporary approach to flexible ways of working both Isle of Man Government and DHSC seek to support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: For context this actually appeared as a reply in what is the replacement for the old system of Written Questions. Tynwald Members can now ask these any time and they appear on here, together with the answers when those are supplied. Watterson is a big user of the system because it means he can ask questions when the next sitting is a Keys one where he couldn't do so as Speaker (or a Tynwald where he might have to take over), though I've noticed some Ministers are using it to question publicly what happens in other Departments - something that didn't happen before. Anyway in full it is: When he expects to advertise for a full time Chief Executive Officer for the Department of Health and Social Care; whether the role will be regraded in light of the creation of Manx Care; and whether the next incumbent will be expected to live on Island? The Minister for Health and Social Care (Mr Hooper): The process to advertise for a permanent full time Chief Executive Officer is underway and the draft Job Description is going through the relevant OHR processes prior to advertisement, which includes establishing the appropriate grade for the post. The department are hoping that this will be completed within the coming weeks ready for advertisement prior to Christmas/early in the New Year. The department will recruit the best candidate for the role, i.e. one who meets the required criteria in terms of competencies and character, in order to take DHSC forward successfully. In doing so, it would be inappropriate to insist that the next incumbent should live on Island in cognisance of the contemporary approach to flexible ways of working both Isle of Man Government and DHSC seek to support. I thought the reason d'etre of projects like LoveIOM card, work permits, promoting gaming etc. was to keep money on the island circulating (the spend £1 and it 'creates' £7 in the economy as it gets passed through various transactions) yet the government are quite prepred to have a CEO of locally delivered service live off island and 'phone it in'. Begs the question, why do we need CGO at all? Maybe all of the CS should work from home stop renting offices and flog off the Sea Terminal, Murray House etc. Imagine the millions a year we'd save on maintenance and office refurbs, take the strain off of transport and roads, no subsidised canteen needed, more parking available. Would be great for accountability too as every email, Teams meeting and phone call could be recorded for posterity. After all if its good enough for the DHSC CEO in the aftermath of a pandemic and the dire state of social care, mental health services, waiting lists, access to GP's and dentists... then it ought to be good enough for all of the other mandarins and great majority of desk jockeys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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