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1 hour ago, Roxanne said:

Ukraine seems to be uniting the people in a way ever been seen before. People are organising themselves - without government intervention. 

Inspiring isn't it. 

If they can hold out for a few more days....

The problem is now mobilising and logistics for that many people and incoming against the tide of the refugees outgoing 

 

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1 hour ago, Roxanne said:

Sweden is sending arms and Switzerland is introducing sanctions. Two countries not renowned for getting involved.

Of course, this news will only make Putin more angry - and more desperate - what next? 

And Germany has announced a 100 billion increase in its armed forces budget. 

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50 minutes ago, HeliX said:
1 hour ago, The Phantom said:

Those guys were basically Orcs 

I hope that's not a reference to what I think it is.

This is the one thing I think is being swept under the rug a bit at the moment, though I suppose it is obvious why.  We want to see Ukraine as a peaceful society, lead by a Jewish ex-comedian president who lost relatives to the holocaust and who is slowly bringing reform, democracy and anti-corruption to a fragile state, cruelly attacked by a viscous aggressor.

I think that image is basically true, but the fragile state also contained violent fascist gangs financed by mafia corruption and power, who did bring violence against those they hated.

War does that - and Putin's fomenting of war in the Donbas bread it violent dogs, not just on the Russian side, but on the Ukrainian side too.

And now they are armed and angry and a most horrid form of natural selection is likely to mean the must ruthless survive.

If you want to be liberal and pluralistic you need a strong state, or a fascist will come and hit you in the face and stamp on you. Maintaining Ukraine as a pluralistic society is going to be really hard.

Putin doesn't care about that, but we should.  The thugs are being empowered by what is happening. It is oh so sad.

 

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8 minutes ago, Freggyragh said:

Fighter Jets from the EU are fighting Putin's invasion over skies of Ukraine tonight. 🇪🇺🇺🇦

Hey? Any evidence for that Freggy?  It would be a huge escalation if true.

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Amazon Prime EU just bought up all the MiGs & other aircraft in the EU that Ukrainian pilots know how to fly - donated them to the EU & they've been donated straight to Ukraine. Should be in the air now, or very soon. 

Edited to say: Not sure about the Amazon donation - seems like the money maybe coming from the EU itself. 

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