Newsdesk Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Roxanne said: Sadly you're right. Next winter more places es will be closed, people will be out of work, and fuel prices will continue to rise, in fact, all prices will rcontinue to rise. Helping people financially now is like putting a sticking plaster on a gaping wound. The whole lockdown experiment has been just that. You can’t put off the inevitable indefinitely. I was talking to someone who spent a good bit of the pandemic in Scandinavia recently. They didn’t do the closures and the full on lockdowns. I believe they’re now in much better shape economically than a lot of the Southern European countries which did. Once lockdowns were determined to be the only way to manage things there were only two options 1. Let everything go to the wall right then and risk civil unrest and total carnage on top of the state resources needed to fight a pandemic or 2. Try to kick the can down the road with billions and billions even if the worst case scenario was still carnage and unrest at some future point in time. We’re now close to that future point in time IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Numbnuts said: I think , not that we will ever know, its more than that and they reckon in any conflict 3 times this get wounded . That could account for upwards of 200,000 casualties which if true no country or military can survive that in such a short time. And with winter looming too which will make it far harder for Russia. Ukrainans are fighting for there beliefs and their country. Only one winner in my eyes ! Around 50,000 is the Ukrainian estimate & also ties more or less with the billions in death benefits Russia has had to pay out to the families of those soldiers who will not return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Typically wrong again Curtain boy - the golf course costs the rate payers but you can use it at a discount that’s called a privilege The business at the Golf House turns the Corpy a profit- I don’t know if it’s neutral- no teachers were off work during this post from an offshore Island not called Jersey Wrong again tit, there’s no discount for Douglas ratepayers which is why a lot of the members are from outside Douglas and subsidized by Douglas ratepayers. The only person making a profit at Douglas golf us tenants, check the accounts if you’ve got the intelligence Edited September 11, 2022 by Banker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Banker said: Wrong again tit, there’s no discount for Douglas ratepayers which is why a lot of the members are from outside Douglas and subsidized by Douglas ratepayers. The only person making a profit at Douglas golf us tenants, check the accounts if you’ve got the intelligence Us tenants 😂 hello Mr Vipond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Typically wrong again Curtain boy - the golf course costs the rate payers but you can use it at a discount that’s called a privilege The business at the Golf House turns the Corpy a profit- I don’t know if it’s neutral- no teachers were off work during this post from an offshore Island not called Jersey To be fair the DTC ratepayers do pay a heavy subsidy to Pulrose Golf Club. If the restaurant does turn over 150 Sunday lunches they could charge them a higher rent as I don’t see any Douglas ratepayers getting 10% off what they eat. I heard a slightly different version of your story above one where the guy running the chippy got the money to buy it from the covid loans issued to the old business. Manx gossip is always fairly toxic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, BriT said: To be fair the DTC ratepayers do pay a heavy subsidy to Pulrose Golf Club. If the restaurant does turn over 150 Sunday lunches they could charge them a higher rent as I don’t see any Douglas ratepayers getting 10% off what they eat. I heard a slightly different version of your story above one where the guy running the chippy got the money to buy it from the covid loans issued to the old business. Manx gossip is always fairly toxic. The tenant and licencee asked the now Chippy owner for 3 months rent as soon as lockdown 1 ended- it limped on until the end of the sub lease and he could end the lease- he didn’t get a penny check the published lists if you want to fact check it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: The tenant and licencee asked the now Chippy owner for 3 months rent as soon as lockdown 1 ended- it limped on until the end of the sub lease and he could end the lease- he didn’t get a penny check the published lists if you want to fact check it It’s the Douglas corporation subsidy to golf course & club house which is the issue for many ratepayers who aren’t golfers, the £150k could be spent on improving lighting etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Are the Nobles playground areas and even the football facilities getting a ratepayers subsidy? Where do you draw the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Kopek said: Are the Nobles playground areas and even the football facilities getting a ratepayers subsidy? Where do you draw the line? Last time I checked you didn’t have to be a subscription paid for member of Nobles Park just to go on a slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Kopek said: Are the Nobles playground areas and even the football facilities getting a ratepayers subsidy? Where do you draw the line? Well, it's swings and roundabouts innit... 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 What goes up must go down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I know about a Golf Swing but what stroke is a roundabout??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Kopek said: I know about a Golf Swing but what stroke is a roundabout??? A roundel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, NoTailT said: A roundel. And there was a few strokers that came up with them.... Edited September 11, 2022 by Non-Believer typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 hours ago, SleepyJoe said: Around 50,000 is the Ukrainian estimate & also ties more or less with the billions in death benefits Russia has had to pay out to the families of those soldiers who will not return CNN has very good reporting on the conflict. On the eastern front, a stunning week of Ukrainian success and Russian failures - CNN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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