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8 minutes ago, WTF said:

tourists using the trams would keep that place full during the summer IMHO , i'm guessing energy costs are the issue and probably greedy landlords looking to recoup their own cost of living increases

Perhaps best not to speculate on actual reasons for closure unless the owner puts out a press release. It does seem to be quite a challenging spot to run a cafe though - small number of covers, small local population, other cafes nearby, limited parking. The vegan-only menu will also put some more conservative cardigan people off.

There are other cafes in Laxey that are closing at the end of the season.

Like others, I don't see the need for Government to prop up businesses that aren't able to compete in their markets unless they're absolutely essential to the local economy. It's a fact of life that the majority of small businesses fail, and only those that are able to compete the best, and to keep their overheads low, are likely to survive, even in normal times, but especially when economic pressure puts extra challenges in the way. They're businesses, not charities.

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1 hour ago, BriT said:

Hmm .. a vegan cafe in Laxey. I wonder why it’s closing? 😂

People were travelling to it, me included.  The proprietors and staff are lovely.  That's why I think it is sad.

The numbers of vegans and vegetarians remain small, relatively (see here), but are growing steadily.

I accept John Wright's earlier comment that there has always been a turnover of businesses in the hospitality sector.  It's just that this was a nice one...

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2 minutes ago, Boo Gay'n said:

The numbers of vegans and vegetarians remain small, relatively (see here), but are growing steadily.

I’d specifically not go to any restaurant advertised as vegan. That’s just personal preference and choice so it certainly limits their audience. It’s such a small place too. I can’t imagine how bad it must get with all those veggies and vegans trumping their guts out. 

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

Well I'm not sure that Laxey (pop 1,656) counts as 'really tiny', especially for the Isle of Man, and as they were on the main coast road going North, there would have been quite a few people passing by.  The Manx Radio 'news' item seems to be taken entirely from their Facebook page, which doesn't mention economic pressure as a reason for closing - if it is it may be indirect in that they've got better-paid, less time-intensive jobs for all I know.

Even vegans or vegetarians are affected by a downturn in the economy and since they'll likely be a numerical minority of those that eat out then the eatery will always be more susceptible. 

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41 minutes ago, The Bastard said:

Perhaps best not to speculate on actual reasons for closure unless the owner puts out a press release. It does seem to be quite a challenging spot to run a cafe though - small number of covers, small local population, other cafes nearby, limited parking. The vegan-only menu will also put some more conservative cardigan people off.

Except as pointed out they have put out a statement on Facebook which I'd better reproduce as people seem incapable of clicking on a link:

All good things must come to an end, and Laxey Kitchen is no exception. It's with a heavy heart that I need to let you know that we've just closed our doors for the final time.

We've had a blast! What started as a hobby food blog turned into something utterly beautiful. From delivering gorgeous vegan food and cakes to your doors during the lockdowns to getting the keys to our lovely café in Laxey village and turning what was a vintage butchers shop into a beautiful space for you all to enjoy.

We've had parties, pop-up's and celebrations of all kinds and we've loved getting to know each and every one of you. Thank you for all of your love and support, it has meant the world to us and we're incredibly grateful.

Opening a niche business in a tiny village, in a former butchers shop in the middle of a pandemic was always going to be a challenge but I think we smashed it! The days when we had a queue stretching out onto the square totally blew our minds!!

Thank you to our amazing team of beautiful souls (past and present) who have helped us along this path, you're incredible and we will treasure the memories forever, we've laughed, A LOT!! And cried a bit too 😭

Thank you also to our fab local suppliers and our wonderful landlord for all of the  kindness, support and amazing local products, but it's now time for us to bow out. 
With love and gratitude
Lisa & Martin

P.S all unused gift vouchers will be honoured by our other business, message us for details on how to claim 🙏

So they seem to feel the cafe was a success and have another business that they are continuing with.  The business itself was described as an "Independent coffee shop, veggie/vegan café and bakery" so presumably milk, butter and so on would have been available and that would have made it acceptable to most cafe trade, unless you insist on raw meat for you afternoon tea.

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It was a nice little restaurant with a different menu. The food was good and service friendly. It would have drawn it's customers to travel to it. So nothing to do with the size of Laxey or vegetarians.

It is small so a decent turnover would always be a problem and might not have provided the profit for the two of them to share with a slight downturn in business and they seemed to bring in 'Family' help, which while 'cheap' would not be free! They were down to two days a week lately so maybe already have other jobs?

It's a shame for them and another case of Use it or Lose it!!!

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1 hour ago, Boo Gay'n said:

People were travelling to it, me included.  The proprietors and staff are lovely.  That's why I think it is sad.

The numbers of vegans and vegetarians remain small, relatively (see here), but are growing steadily.

The food was good.  The service (well timing) was awful.  I think it took over an hour when I was there to essentially get an open sandwich.   There also seemed to be about the same number of staff as customers. 

Surely the answer to a Vegan restaurant is to have an unlimited supply of bacon for the majority carnivores to sprinkle on their veggis? 

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5 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Except as pointed out they have put out a statement on Facebook which I'd better reproduce as people seem incapable of clicking on a link:

All good things must come to an end, and Laxey Kitchen is no exception. It's with a heavy heart that I need to let you know that we've just closed our doors for the final time.

We've had a blast! What started as a hobby food blog turned into something utterly beautiful. From delivering gorgeous vegan food and cakes to your doors during the lockdowns to getting the keys to our lovely café in Laxey village and turning what was a vintage butchers shop into a beautiful space for you all to enjoy.

We've had parties, pop-up's and celebrations of all kinds and we've loved getting to know each and every one of you. Thank you for all of your love and support, it has meant the world to us and we're incredibly grateful.

Opening a niche business in a tiny village, in a former butchers shop in the middle of a pandemic was always going to be a challenge but I think we smashed it! The days when we had a queue stretching out onto the square totally blew our minds!!

Thank you to our amazing team of beautiful souls (past and present) who have helped us along this path, you're incredible and we will treasure the memories forever, we've laughed, A LOT!! And cried a bit too 😭

Thank you also to our fab local suppliers and our wonderful landlord for all of the  kindness, support and amazing local products, but it's now time for us to bow out. 
With love and gratitude
Lisa & Martin

P.S all unused gift vouchers will be honoured by our other business, message us for details on how to claim 🙏

So they seem to feel the cafe was a success and have another business that they are continuing with.  The business itself was described as an "Independent coffee shop, veggie/vegan café and bakery" so presumably milk, butter and so on would have been available and that would have made it acceptable to most cafe trade, unless you insist on raw meat for you afternoon tea.

Yeah, everyone was already capable of clicking on the link, and if you'd have actually read it yourself, it doesn't indicate the reasons for closure other than mentioning a couple of telling lines like "niche business in a tiny village". Do try and keep up.

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2 hours ago, Gladys said:

What would you like government to do?  It can't influence world economics, and any financial support is from the public pot, potentially impacting other essential services.  We can’t keep thinking that government is going to underwrite everything, it can't and shouldn't. 

When the certain members of government were contacted about reducing the rate of VAT on food they said they couldn't do anything. It's annoying to say the least that weeks later, certain parts of the construction industry got dropped to 5%. Not asking for a handout just a level playing field.

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5 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

When the certain members of government were contacted about reducing the rate of VAT on food they said they couldn't do anything. It's annoying to say the least that weeks later, certain parts of the construction industry got dropped to 5%. Not asking for a handout just a level playing field.

You certainly have a bit of a complex about government.

The playing field is level. All other hospitality businesses pay the same. Brickies don't sell sandwiches and cream teas during their lunch break.

What generally puts businesses out of business is not a lack of Government support, but an inability to compete against other businesses in the area. The statistics say that the majority of small businesses will fail to compete against other businesses, even when they're all paying the same level of VAT.

A tiny cafe serving niche food in an area with little parking and several other cafes, garages, food stores and takeaways next door will probably struggle whether or not they have a small decrease in VAT.

A VAT decrease also doesn't suddenly mean more money going into the till - no matter what the industry, when it decreases, savvy competitors will use the opportunity to drop their prices to undercut the rest who don't.

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7 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

It used to be said that VAT rates couldn't be changed unless there was an EU variation arrangement/agreement in place elsewhere

Presumably they can only now be varied in line with the Common Purse

Not quite.  It can be done in agreement with the UK, so that something can have different VAT here, providing it isn't something that can be exported.  That's why hotels here have long charged only 5% on bed and breakfast and there has also been only 5% on some building repairs (now being extended).  The logic in the latter case is that there is zero-rate VAT on new builds, so this is to encourage repairs rather than replacement.

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