alpha-acid Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) A Malting plant built on the Island certainly would loose money as most Barley grown here is not suitable for Malting. In the UK a farmer takes a gamble basically whether to grow malting barley or feed barley, feed barley gives a higher yield in terms of Tonnes than Malting Barley but Malting Barley fetches a higher price per tonne, but if the weather is bad malting barley can also be useless for malting. The Nitrogen content becomes too high and so useless for brewing. Malting is an Art and Science in itself just like Brewing Edited August 1, 2022 by alpha-acid spelling 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 10 hours ago, jackwhite said: You're coming from the wrong point of view mate, as if those that run councils and government are somehow reasonable people! Elected officials have to try to reflect the views of their people, not always correctly? It would seem odd to complain about the closed down pubs while supporting the new bars? I daresay some of RTCs have been to Fynoderree, may like it but have to balance their official stance. The problem with Manx pubs is that they are, pretty much, brewery owned, competing with each other. Would seem wise to try to concentrate people to fewer properties as long as there is adequate capacity overall. Does Ramsey have capacity problem? Is the loss of a few pubs really such a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 hours ago, Kopek said: Elected officials have to try to reflect the views of their people, not always correctly? It would seem odd to complain about the closed down pubs while supporting the new bars? I daresay some of RTCs have been to Fynoderree, may like it but have to balance their official stance. The problem with Manx pubs is that they are, pretty much, brewery owned, competing with each other. Would seem wise to try to concentrate people to fewer properties as long as there is adequate capacity overall. Does Ramsey have capacity problem? Is the loss of a few pubs really such a problem? So you’re happy for them to stifle competition? This is literally the only place in Ramsey I’d go personally for a night out. I’m sure there are those living in the area who would like some decent options. As for representing the views of their people, do you think the government reflect your views? They certainly don’t mine. They also have duty to try and generate more income by way of rates for the area but their attitude in Fynoderee will just put potential business owners off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, jackwhite said: They also have duty to try and generate more income by way of rates for the area but their attitude in Fynoderee will just put potential business owners off. It’s Ramsey so the commissioners attitude will be driven by nothing more than - Paul’s loaded. He’s not making any more money off decisions we make. That will show him. We’re happy to have a shit empty carpark instead of a posh outside drinking venue - because it’s Ramsey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I sometimes wonder where Ramsey is headed myself...I think the pub/nightlife situation is a bit chicken and egg now, there's not the trade (through socio-economic changes) to support the number of pubs that there used to be (25 including hotel bars at one point); conversely, without the right type of attractions it's unlikely to pick up. People largely steer clear of brewery houses because of the price structure, the one or two private houses that remain mop up the trade. A lot of other people leave the town for their entertainment. Ramsey is a quiet place of a weekend night these days. RTC should be doing everything they can to support anything that helps reverse the trend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 11:02 AM, Kopek said: RTC have a p[roblem with the closed down Pubs though. Might seem odd to support new trendy Bar and complain about closed old fashioned Pubs? Yes everything’s broken so nobody can have have something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Non-Believer said: I sometimes wonder where Ramsey is headed myself...I think the pub/nightlife situation is a bit chicken and egg now, there's not the trade (through socio-economic changes) to support the number of pubs that there used to be (25 including hotel bars at one point); conversely, without the right type of attractions it's unlikely to pick up. People largely steer clear of brewery houses because of the price structure, the one or two private houses that remain mop up the trade. A lot of other people leave the town for their entertainment. Ramsey is a quiet place of a weekend night these days. RTC should be doing everything they can to support anything that helps reverse the trend. Not enough young families, Ramsey is like terrible retirement village that doesn't like change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: Not enough young families, Ramsey is like terrible retirement village that doesn't like change Thats the whole island, and mainly not from here, perhaps we do need a cull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: Not enough young families, Ramsey is like terrible retirement village that doesn't like change 11 minutes ago, HiVibes said: Thats the whole island, and mainly not from here, perhaps we do need a cull. A cull seems a bit harsh. I'd be up for walling off the entire town from the rest of the island and surrounding it with a moat containing sharks with fricking laser beams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 8 hours ago, jackwhite said: So you’re happy for them to stifle competition? This is literally the only place in Ramsey I’d go personally for a night out. I’m sure there are those living in the area who would like some decent options. But, as was discussed on a previous thread, there are clearly also those in the area who are worried about noise from an outside licenced area operating year-round and seven days a week well into the evenings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I have to say...the quality of bread available has shot up since the demise of Ramsey Bakery. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmeee Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: I have to say...the quality of bread available has shot up since the demise of Ramsey Bakery. I’m really enjoying the co-op tiger skied loaf. It’s as expensive as shite and healthy was, but 10 times tastier and is fresh too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 What is 'tiger skied'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: I have to say...the quality of bread available has shot up since the demise of Ramsey Bakery. I totally agree. It’s like communism has ended and now we don’t have to pick the weevils out of the sad state milled bread anymore. Plus prices haven’t gone up that much either considering how expensive their bread already was anyway. Edited August 2, 2022 by BriT 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, BriT said: I totally agree. It’s like communism has ended and now we don’t have to pick the weevils out of the sad state milled bread anymore. Plus prices haven’t gone up that much either considering how expensive their bread already was anyway. but it has a shelf life measured in hours not days, i bet dentists love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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