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28 minutes ago, cissolt said:

I heard the same. Very worrying times.  Dr Alex seems to have burried his head in the sand and is now AWOL until October.

Allinson and Callister will be running for cover when half their constituents can’t afford to heat their homes. No amount of empty platitudes will prepare them for the anger. 

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3 hours ago, Bandits said:

Allinson and Callister will be running for cover when half their constituents can’t afford to heat their homes. No amount of empty platitudes will prepare them for the anger. 

Their workers are going to be busy disconnecting everybody that can't pay aren't they?

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19 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

But, as was discussed on a previous thread, there are clearly also those in the area who are worried about noise from an outside licenced area operating year-round and seven days a week well into the evenings.

"Well into the evenings" becomes "well into the night" becomes "well into the morning" as has been found at Jacks and 1886 with their 3:30am weekend licences.

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12 minutes ago, Barlow said:

"Well into the evenings" becomes "well into the night" becomes "well into the morning" as has been found at Jacks and 1886 with their 3:30am weekend licences.

It does but it won't at Fynoderee. Why not actually let them do it first and then see if there's an issue? 

1886 and Jaks have a very different clientele and target market. I know some people on the Isle of Man may be staggered, but not every bar or person in a bar is exactly the same.

Besides, under the new licensing laws, you will be required to state your opening hours. Fynoderee are 11 at latest and I think (not entirely certain and can't be bothered going to look it all up) the use of the outside area was even earlier. 

Restrict it to 9pm which is a more than reasonable time if you have to. But to try and put the blocker on it completely is just a complete nonsense. 

What you have suggested above won't be possible under the imminent new licensing regime. 

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3 minutes ago, jackwhite said:

Besides, under the new licensing laws, you will be required to state your opening hours. Fynoderee are 11 at latest and I think (not entirely certain and can't be bothered going to look it all up) the use of the outside area was even earlier. 

As I pointed out in the comment on the other thread, they also applied for a licence to 12.30 am seven nights a week at about the same time.  There were no restrictions on use of the outside area, and without restrictions there would be nothing to prevent the same applying there.  Even if restrictions are added there's nothing to prevent them gradually being stretched, as indeed has happened with the distillery.  So you can see why locals might be cautious.

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51 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

As I pointed out in the comment on the other thread, they also applied for a licence to 12.30 am seven nights a week at about the same time.  There were no restrictions on use of the outside area, and without restrictions there would be nothing to prevent the same applying there.  Even if restrictions are added there's nothing to prevent them gradually being stretched, as indeed has happened with the distillery.  So you can see why locals might be cautious.

They did apply for a license to 1230, which isn't needed 7 days a week. I agree on that. I think they should have it though for Friday and Saturday.

As for having to close at that time in the Sunday, it's dark ages stuff. 

Rather than go in two footed could the commissioners not have approached Fynoderee to discuss it and try to come to some sort of agreement? Or is that far too sensible?

As for the restrictions 'gradually being stretched', that's just nonsense. It doesn't happen. If they apply for an extension you have to ask why and don't have to give it to them. I wouldn't beyond what they've asked for this time. As I said above too, the new licensing laws will require you to state your opening hours and I'd imagine the Alcohol Unit will have questions to ask if you are varying from them. 

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8 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

It would take a special type of client to frequent Fynoderree until 12.30am.

Probably a HNWI.

Assume you're trying to say it's overly expensive? I don't believe it is. 

Their own made drinks are overpriced but still don't believe they're expensive.

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midnight should be enough for anyone , how do you expect people living over the shop or near a pub to get some sleep  its not like the old days, when people had a few drinks and quietly  went off home to sleep it off , its more like an alcohol drug crazed  high when some people think they can fight everyone in their sight screaming and swearing at the top of their voices ,  behaviour has gone to hell !

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1 hour ago, jackwhite said:

Assume you're trying to say it's overly expensive? I don't believe it is. 

No (and without wanting to steal NB's thunder) I think he's referring to the fact that HNWI have got the money to drink for longer, irrespective of the pricing/cost.

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2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said:

No (and without wanting to steal NB's thunder) I think he's referring to the fact that HNWI have got the money to drink for longer, irrespective of the pricing/cost.

No, no, he got it right the first time 😂 ... I think it's expensive (and I know a good few others who think so too), I was in there a couple of months back and was a little "taken aback" when I got a round of drinks in. Still, all very subjective and if people are willing to pay the prices then fair enough.

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1 hour ago, Non-Believer said:

No, no, he got it right the first time 😂 ... I think it's expensive (and I know a good few others who think so too), I was in there a couple of months back and was a little "taken aback" when I got a round of drinks in. Still, all very subjective and if people are willing to pay the prices then fair enough.

Depends what you're buying and if you know what you're buying.

Paid £12 for a whisky tonight in Douglas. Were they taking the piss? Yes. Did I tell them? Also yes. Was it nice. Yes.

I want to drink better stuff than most of what's available on the Isle of Man. I'm prepared to pay the price because I know what it cost. Other than their own stuff, I don't think they overcharge. If you do I'd suggest, without being a horrible person, you're in the wrong place.

There are plenty of places to pay £4 a pint and £3 for a cheap whisky/gin/vodka. Is Fynoderee that type of place? No. But I'd know that before I set foot in the place.

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3 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

people are willing to pay the prices then fair enough.

If you have had a few already, you'll pay any price? That is where the 'nice place' to drink falls apart, little old Ladies for a Sherry or anyone? Or the Quay side pub 'chappies' wanting another drink????

I'm not sure I would be any different in the Fynoderree  situation but I would accept that I was being hypocritical!

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