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1 hour ago, Max Power said:

Factually totally incorrect if you're referring to the racing. 

Road casualties can happen anywhere, in fact I can recall a GP event I attended not so long ago where eleven motorcyclists were killed on the road over the three days. Many of the accidents where people are killed involve slow speeds and are within limits. Falling off any moving thing can be fatal, what people are really advocating is a ban on motorcycling and anything where you travel at more than ten mph, like cycling and skiing etc.    

The whataboutery is as strong as ever. 

 

Everest has been there for a few millenia. The TT just over 100 years. 

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2 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

The whataboutery is as strong as ever. 

 

Everest has been there for a few millenia. The TT just over 100 years. 

It was an anti-TT post that mentioned Everest first. You can hardly blame Max for replying to it.

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12 minutes ago, Gizo said:

It’s started:

#everest

The Everest analogy needs clarifying.

Is it only dead ones on official climbs - riders

Does it include Sherpas - Marshals etc 

Does it include weekend heroes - that nobody hears about when open to everyone 

Does it include a big fuckoff sledge coming the wrong way up the slope  when they’re all told stop climbing and return to base camp ?

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36 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said:

Does it include a big fuckoff sledge coming the wrong way up the slope  when they’re all told stop climbing and return to base camp ?

There was a duck up and lessons will have been learned.

Do you want to ban all cycling races on the island as well for similar reasons?

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50 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

The whataboutery is as strong as ever. 

 

Everest has been there for a few millenia. The TT just over 100 years. 

Yes, you do seem to be using it, I didn't bring Everest up, I just pointed out the fact that was incorrect. The Isle of Man has been here for millenia, Everest was first climbed in 1953, the Mountain Course first used in 1911.  

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3 hours ago, asitis said:

Far more difficult than Everest, only 377 people have successfully summited K2, over 5000 for Everest !

And only 87 have died climbing it, making it way safer than the TT. 

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15 minutes ago, 0bserver said:

And only 87 have died climbing it, making it way safer than the TT. 

Nope, you've just proved that it's massively more dangerous than the TT. It's not about numbers, it's about death rate. Let's say that 600 people (conservatively) have tried to climb K2, and 87 of them have died, that means approximately 1 in 7 people that have attempted the climb have died. Since there are about 70 entries for the 1000cc classes, if the TT was more dangerous, it would have to have more than 10 casualties per race to be more dangerous.

Again, it's not about numbers, it's about rate. More people have died falling off or drowning in toilets in the past decade than the entirety of the TT's history, but it would be ridiculous to compare the two in terms of danger.

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6 minutes ago, The Bastard said:

Nope, you've just proved that it's massively more dangerous than the TT. It's not about numbers, it's about death rate. Let's say that 600 people (conservatively) have tried to climb K2, and 87 of them have died, that means approximately 1 in 7 people that have attempted the climb have died. Since there are about 70 entries for the 1000cc classes, if the TT was more dangerous, it would have to have more than 10 casualties per race to be more dangerous.

Again, it's not about numbers, it's about rate. More people have died falling off or drowning in toilets in the past decade than the entirety of the TT's history, but it would be ridiculous to compare the two in terms of danger.

More or less deadly than Covid?

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